Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/April (band)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Rainbow unicorn (talk) 21:42, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

April (band)[edit]

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Unreferenced article about a girl group that has not debuted and currently has no released music. I think it's WP:TOOSOON for an article. Random86 (talk) 18:59, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Random86 (talk) 18:59, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions. Random86 (talk) 19:00, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for now: WP:TOOSOON. Tibbydibby (talk) 18:17, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Suggestion/Inquiry: I have a draft of this article already made, but this version was posted before I could since I was waiting for the official debut. I have much more information about this group, history, notoriety (some members were in a band before this and participated in Kara Project), and reliable sources. If I fleshed it out, would that impact its nomination for deletion? Katzenlibrary (talk) 20:51, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Replace this article with your draft, right away, if it looks better than what we have now. Don't forget to add sources/references. Certainly it will influence the discussion here, but we'll know how it does only after seeing the new version. Kraxler (talk) 18:40, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for now as too soon and draft & userfy until better sources are found (the generic name is no help either). SwisterTwister talk 04:35, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: To allow more time for Katzenlibrary to post, and the community to consider, their draft. T. Canens (talk) 22:40, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, T. Canens (talk) 22:40, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Update: Thanks, Timotheus Canens. I have now added the sources/information that I added earlier. While it isn't large swaths of info (I try to keep things as concise as I can), the new info about the failed previous band (Puretty) and members' participation in Kara Project, which gained a lot of hype for the band (KARA) and suicide linked to it, may help the discussion about the notability of this new group. I'm searching for a better source for Puretty's disbandment, so please take that into account when judging my edits! Thanks Katzenlibrary (talk) 15:58, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good so far, although the sources are all in Korean. I'd like to read something in English sometime. They'll debut before this discussion is closed, so we'll see how it goes. There should be more coverage then. It seems that girl groups are quite popular in South Korea. Kraxler (talk) 16:15, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'll do some work to see if I can find English sources. The problem with English sources for kpop articles is that most of them come from places like allkpop, which are just crude translations of Korean-language news pieces like the ones I used in the article. But once the band debuts, there may be some English-language articles from places like JoongAng or HuffPost Korea. I'll keep my eyes open! Katzenlibrary (talk) 15:06, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A long time ago when I was heavily active here, I tried to get allkpop banned as the site has an explicit disclaimer stating that info "may or may not be true and allkpop makes no warranty as to the validity of any claims".... Anyway, good English sources will be hard to find, but eventually they'll come. SKS (talk) 04:26, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I just added an English language source here.Masterpeace3 (talk) 03:29, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Great! Thank you! Katzenlibrary (talk) 16:39, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: They just debuted so it'll be a while before this page becomes a solid page (if their debut succeeds) but there's significant media coverage for various reasons (members tried out on a reality show, and it's from a "major" management company). Sources already on the page are all legit. SKS (talk) 04:26, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per the significant coverage in reliable sources in Nate, StarNews, and enews24.
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow April to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 03:50, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —☮JAaron95 ^Talk 10:16, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Wikipedia has become too harsh. Hike The Monicas (talk) 16:53, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.