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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Schools are not de facto notable if they can be proved to exist, per the explanation at WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. It's likely that the essay WP:UNIN is outdated. (Incidentally, I went ahead and removed the word "guideline" from the title of that essay to avoid confusion.) In the absence of sources to establish the notability of the school, the article must be deleted. I'm happy to restore the article to draft space if someone wants to work on it. —⁠ScottyWong⁠— 17:12, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Apeejay Stya University[edit]

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A non-notable university in India with no sources establishing the school's existence outside of few links that mention the school in passing. From my own research, I was not able to find anything mentioning the school that as having passed basic general notability guidelines for it to have its own article. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:13, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:08, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:08, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:08, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I have been a bit confused about this. This might be a good avenue to clarify this. WP:UNIN says that In general, all colleges and universities are de facto notable and should be included on Wikipedia. (That this view has generally prevailed is expressed at WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES.. But WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES doesn't say this. It says Most independently accredited degree-awarding institutions have enough coverage to be notable, although that coverage may not be readily available online. which is different to de facto notability. I know that WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES was updated in between. Possible that WP:UNIN is outdated? Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 18:44, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
But UNIN is not a guideline or policy as stated. But we have an issue with this article as no sources are used to lay out the school's history, what it teaches, and all "news" sources mention it in passing. Notability is still a requirement. This doesn't meet it. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:27, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The word "guideline" should really be removed from the title of that essay. --Adamant1 (talk) 21:01, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I don't really feel like going into the nuances of why I think this has to pass WP:NORG, but IMO it does. In the meantime, looking over the references there are 8 that say it is recognized by the University Grants Commission, which is clearly ref bombing, but not much else. So in no way does it pass the standards of notable for organizations. --Adamant1 (talk) 19:42, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. We have always held officially accredited universities to be notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:23, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This place may be accredited but sources have to establish not just the accreditation but for the school itself. GNG still matters which this doesn't meet. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:22, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:56, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: I also feel it fails to meet WP:NORG. Just accreditation doesn't mean notability. Advait (talk) 06:10, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Yes, it exists. But do the sources prove the notability: ehm, no.. The Banner talk 19:50, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Joe (talk) 14:00, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Draftify let others' work on it and let it come to main article namespace via AfC route. -Hatchens (talk) 05:52, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep officially accredited universities are notable.27.5.75.113 (talk) 12:01, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete For now it fails WP:NORG. Does not satisfy GNG too. DMySon (talk) 16:10, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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