Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anna Geddes

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The result was keep. Consensus is clear. BD2412 T 01:20, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Anna Geddes[edit]

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The notability is unclear. It seems much of her notability seems to derive from her marriage to Patrick Geddes, but of course notability is WP:NOT INHERITED. The references do not look like WP:SIGCOV to me. Ari T. Benchaim (talk) 23:36, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators and Scotland. Ari T. Benchaim (talk) 23:36, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge.XavierItzm (talk) 23:46, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Seems notable: has an entry in The New Biographical Dictionary of Scottish Women published by Cambridge University Press Piecesofuk (talk) 13:33, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:50, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:GNG and because the WP:NOTINHERITED essay states e.g. Individuals in close, personal relationships with famous people (including politicians) can have an independent article even if they are known solely for such a relationship, but only if they pass WP:GNG, and the WP:INVALIDBIO guideline states, e.g. That person A has a relationship with well-known person B, such as being a spouse or child, is not a reason for a standalone article on A (unless significant coverage can be found on A). For this article, in addition to the biographical dictionary entry, there is also Walter Stephen, ed., Learning from the Lasses: Women of the Patrick Geddes Circle, Edinburgh: Luath Press, 2014, which includes in its description, "Several of the women profiled in this book wrote regularly to Anna Geddes, and she clearly held together much of what happened: exhibitions, summer schools, lecture series, musical evenings, in terms of organisation and hospitality."; her active and nontrivial participation is also discussed in Situated Knowledge and Visual Education: Patrick Geddes and Reclus's Geography (1886–1932). Journal of Geography, 2016, p. 1-17; there is also biographical information before and after she met Patrick Geddes in Romantic Ireland: From Tone to Gonne; Fresh Perspectives on Nineteenth-Century Ireland at 173; and she is described as "The valiant Anna Geddes introduced her husband to the practical side of housing questions, had much to do with his successes in Edinburgh Old Town" in this review, and there appear to be at least two more sources in French via GScholar where she is at least mentioned. Beccaynr (talk) 17:00, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, per inclusion in The New Biographical Dictionary of Scottish Women. In addition to the sources found by Beccaynr, the first page of hits in WL gives a book review of Tanya Cheadle, Sexual Progressives: Reimagining Intimacy in Scotland, 1880–1914. By: Lynch, Charlie, Scottish Historical Review, 00369241, Apr2021, Vol. 100, Issue 1, and presumably coverage in the original book. Espresso Addict (talk) 04:48, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, per the New Biographical Dictionary of Scottish Women entry; and per Beccaynr's excellent analysis. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:57, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, Beccaynr provides compelling evidence for Anna Geddes' notability. She appears to have been an equal partner in much of the social reform work undertaken with her husband. Additions references: Romantic Ireland From Tone to Gonne; Fresh Perspectives on Nineteenth-Century Ireland, and Designing the Modern City Urbanism Since 1850.LornaMCampbell (talk) 13:37, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: From the above and recent improvements to the article, this is certainly a person of historical interest. We need to reinforce interest in women who have appeared only in articles about their spouses or male partners.--Ipigott (talk) 08:23, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:GNG. An entry in The New Biographical Dictionary of Scottish Women and an entire chapter about her in Learning from the Lasses is enough for WP:GNG. WP:NOTINHERITED does not forbid articles about people connected to more-notable people, it requires only that we have in-depth coverage of the subject herself rather than passing mention of her in connection to the other person, and here clearly we do have that coverage. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:26, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per the compelling arguments placed by @Piecesofuk: and @Beccaynr:. WP:NOTINHERITED doesn't prohibit a person close to a famous person to be notable on his or her own merit or notability metrics. Cirton (talk) 20:31, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - She is notable for more than just being Patrick Geddes' wife and has been covered in works including those cited above. Dunarc (talk) 22:46, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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