Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anna Eliza Williams (3rd nomination)

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The result was redirect‎ to List of the verified oldest people. The only "keep" argument is that "no one has bothered to check for socures.... again". Maybe, but because that "keep" proponent has also not bothered to search for sources, or at least to cite any, their view is disregarded. The redirect ATD is unopposed. Sandstein 20:38, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anna Eliza Williams

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:BIO. Notable only for having been the oldest known person for 11 months. Died in 1997; outcome of second AFD in ~~2017~~ 2018 was to delete. My speedy nomination db-g4 (even fewer sources than the 2017 version) was declined by an admin in favour of redirect to List of the verified oldest people, but the redirect was reverted 6 days later. Wikishovel (talk) 02:58, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and United Kingdom. Wikishovel (talk) 02:58, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, England, and Wales. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:38, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I can't find coverage about this person. I don't see how being the oldest person for 11 months is notable. Bio information here is minimal. Oaktree b (talk) 12:57, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
or redirect is fine. Oaktree b (talk) 14:13, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of the verified oldest people, where she is already listed. I was the admin who declined the G4 nomination, as the article changed too much since the previous AfD. Thank you for bringing this here, Wikishovel! I agree that the article fails NBIO, but see no reason to eliminate it as a redirect. Persistent attempts to ressurect it as a standalone article can be reverted with a reference to this AfD. Or if needed, the redir can be page-protected until someone establishes notability. Owen× ☎ 13:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect would be fine by me. Wikishovel (talk) 13:56, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep the nomianter just has to do a quick google search and I'm sure he'll find plenty of sources that are reliable article should be kept as the reason why it's a stub is cause no one has bothered to check for socures.... again — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wwew345t (talk • contribs) 02:10, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You dont even have the date of the last afd correct nor have you seemed to have checked if there are socures for her furthermore just case she died in 1997 doesn't mean she isn't notable? Wwew345t (talk) 02:12, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Typo corrected in nomination thanks. And yes, I made a WP:BEFORE search before nominating, and couldn't find better sourcing than what's here already. If you can find better sources that I'd missed, I'd be grateful. Wikishovel (talk) 06:23, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments. We have to get to a consensus on whether being the oldest person alive is notable. There tends to be coverage in popular media. Bearian (talk) 21:05, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.