Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Angelo Ponte

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The result was no consensus. v/r - T P 18:12, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Angelo Ponte[edit]

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There is some debate if we should have an article on this fellow. I declined a speedy and a PROD, but given the desire for deletion I thought I'd put it up at AfD.

A news search would seem to indicate that he meets WP:N but it's not clear he meets WP:CRIME. Hobit (talk) 18:30, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:29, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:30, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Ponte does not meet WP:CRIME, he is only known for owning a carting company. --Vic49 (talk) 21:37, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- Significant coverage: NY Daily News, NY Times
- Less significant but non-trivial coverage: NY Daily News (again), Forgotten NY, CNN, NYmag.
I'd say he meets WP:N. I'm less sure of WP:CRIME. Hobit (talk) 17:43, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment your references same the same thing "Ponte was in the carting industry". You say he meets WP:N under what criteria in Wikipedia:Notability (people)? --Vic49 (talk) 18:42, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

- WP:N simply requires multiple reliable and independent sources that have a reasonable degree of detail. That bar is easily met here. There is a significant amount of reporting on the subject (as shown above). Hobit (talk) 01:12, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Ponte did own the largest carting company in NYC, which was involved in a well publicized battle with outside competitors. However, there is very little source information on Ponte's individual role in all this. He might have been a front man for someone else. Don't think he meets the notability or crime criteria. 74.69.41.13 (talk) 00:48, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- But he does seem to meet WP:N, yes? Hobit (talk) 01:12, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:30, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Does not meet WP:CRIME and not notable. - DonCalo (talk) 07:02, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I still vote Delete --Vic49 (talk) 21:50, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This isnt a vote.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:25, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep notable criminal. The references cited above are quite sufficient. DGG ( talk ) 01:34, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I have to agree with user DGG. references are sufficient and reliable.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:25, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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