Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Angel Taylor
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:22, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NMG. Singer has no music chart entries, certified units, major award wins, etc. The promotional content tag has been on the page since 2010 and there aren't any reliable sources for this singer to verify anything written in this article. Frankly, it would be better to repurpose this page for the other singer named Angel Taylor from Trin-i-tee 5:7. The other Angel Taylor (from Trin-i-tee 5:7) has music chart entries and award wins. Sackkid (talk) 06:22, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:GNG. The cited AllMusic source is good,[1] and there are more sources out there describing Taylor's life and career in depth. For instance, I found one Digital Spy, another Digital Spy, and IBTimes, all from Feb 2012. Singersroom wrote about her in 2023. Binksternet (talk) 06:55, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Having a AllMusic page doesn’t make her notable. Furthermore, she did not place 1st, 2nd, or 3rd on The Voice. All of the links are centered around her brief time with The Voice. DigitalSpy doesn’t talk about anything before or after The Voice. Singersroom is not considered a reliable source by Wikipedia. Sackkid (talk) 19:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Quite true. You are arguing that she doesn't meet WP:MUSICBIO, and I am arguing that she meets the minimum notability of WP:GNG. Two different things. Binksternet (talk) 19:58, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- That would be redundant because this is article about a musical artist. For the page to be on Wikipedia, it would need to meet the guidelines of WP:NMG. Furthermore, it only meets WP:GNG simply for the AllMusic source which only has a very brief paragraph on her. It basically just states that she negotiated a record deal with Aware/Columbia Records and released an album in 2009. But the article doesn't mention anything after that event, probably because the artist is not notable for them. And as she has not done anything notable by Wikipedia standards, there is no point in this page being here. Sackkid (talk) 00:51, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- AllMusic is cited in the article. The other sources I mentioned are not cited yet, but they could be, and they show that the subject was notable in 2012. Notability doesn't fade with time. The 2012 sources stand on their own. And finally, an article about a musician is not required to pass WP:MUSICBIO. Any article at all can pass WP:GNG and stay on Wikipedia. Binksternet (talk) 01:11, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- That would be redundant because this is article about a musical artist. For the page to be on Wikipedia, it would need to meet the guidelines of WP:NMG. Furthermore, it only meets WP:GNG simply for the AllMusic source which only has a very brief paragraph on her. It basically just states that she negotiated a record deal with Aware/Columbia Records and released an album in 2009. But the article doesn't mention anything after that event, probably because the artist is not notable for them. And as she has not done anything notable by Wikipedia standards, there is no point in this page being here. Sackkid (talk) 00:51, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Quite true. You are arguing that she doesn't meet WP:MUSICBIO, and I am arguing that she meets the minimum notability of WP:GNG. Two different things. Binksternet (talk) 19:58, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Women, and California. Shellwood (talk) 09:44, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep per the good (not ideal) sources, e.g. Allmusic, etc. --美しい歌 (talk) 13:11, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. This article fails the Google search and Google news search test and conflicts search results with the more popular Trin-i-tee 5:7 gospel singer of the same name. Keeping this articles borders WP:Clearly notable simply for the AllMusic because it is not clear if DigitalSpy is a reliable source. Furthermore, assuming if it were a reliable source, it focused solely on the fact that she participated in The Voice; a contest that she did not come close to winning, respectively. The AllMusic link only has a very brief summary on that simply states that she had a record deal and release a album in 2009 which did not chart. The AllMusic link isn't enough to verify what is written in the Wikipedia article. The Wikipedia seems to consist of original research. Sackkid (talk) 04:15, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.