Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andy Smith (model)

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The result was delete. Text is copyvio from the subject's blog (http://andiandandy.blogspot.com). Sandstein 05:45, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Andy Smith (model)

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Unsure if this is a semi-hoax or what. There does seem to be a fashion model by that name. However, article claims he was a full-time tennis pro who "toured the circuit and obtained significant Australian and world rankings" and I can find no record of that. Other claims to fame are unreferenced and in any case too minor to denote notability. QTube is a GLBT website which doesn't have a WP article. A search on QTube found no-one by the name of Andy or Andrew Smith. –Moondyne 14:31, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:18, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep This article appears to be based on Cruz, Marinel (10 July 2009), "From laid-back to fast-track living", Philippine Daily Inquirer. Some relevant quotes: "He toured the circuit and obtained significant Australian and world rankings until he suffered an injury." "While on vacation in Manila in 2007 he was spotted by a talent scout on the noontime game show "Eat ... Bulaga!" He soon became a commercial model and bagged a prestigious bikini summit title." "Andy, 24, host of the magazine show "QTube" on QTV 11." This article is about him. There is also "Andi meets Andy", Manila Bulletin, 23 July 2009 about Andy and his co-host Andi. "Andi and Andy host Qtube, a 30-minute magazine show on Q Channel 11 (airing Thursdays at 10:15 p.m.)" It says "He has taken home at least 150 trophies and is ranked no. 68 in Australia before he decided to quit because of a back injury." "He was spotted in the GMA noontime show "Eat Bulaga" while he was watching with his relatives, and was quickly signed on by a casting agency as model."Allan K pulled me out from the crowd and made me do the 'TakTak Mo' on stage and they made me sing,"". There is also a little in San Juan, Luis Carlo (5 June 2009), "Guys and their jeans", Philippine Daily Inquirer including "He's now part of GMA's noontime show "Eat Bulaga." He also won the Mossimo Bikini Summit last year." Appears to be just enough for WP:N. duffbeerforme (talk) 11:12, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I also just found http://andiandandy.blogspot.com/ My guess is that all of the above (basically social columns) as well as the WP page and the facebook all originate from a single source, probably a personal CV which has been generous with the truth. They are all use suspiciously similar phrasing and hence can't be thought of as reliable sources. Lets go through the claims for notability:

spotted by a talent scout on the noontime game show "Eat ... Bulaga!": its only saying he appeared on the show. He wasn't a host or a regular or anything like that. Apart from above, no RS.
He started as a professional tennis player from Adelaide ... obtained significant Australian and world rankings ...: If true, there would be a reliable tennis source for that claim. I searched and failed.
He was quickly signed on by a casting agency as model.: big deal
he bagged a prestigious bikini summit title.: ~~What title?~~ probably referring to Mossimo Bikini Summit Competition. R/Source needed
Andy now brings to Qtube his dynamic persona and his drop-dead gorgeous looks.: Really? Qtube website which doesn't even warrant a Wikipedia page. And as stated, there's nothing on the website to confirm his hosting role. Secondary/RS needed.

–Moondyne 12:40, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ref 3 above suggests more than one appearence. Still not enough to make him notable
this may be him. Ref 2 says ranked no. 68 in Australia (would that be easy to find on a reliable tennis source?). Not enough IMO for wp:athlete.
big deal
Ref 3 says Mossimo Bikini Summit last year (2008). not a major award so not notable from this.
This is QTube, magazine show on Q Channel 11 (I'm guessing part of Q (TV network)). Not the GLBT website. See refs 1+2. co-host of one show not a clear pass for wp:entertainer.
a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject The only one he might pass. Depends wether you call the coverage provided good enough. duffbeerforme (talk) 10:08, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Cirt (talk) 04:42, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete as it is:

A BLP,
Of a person who is, if notable, only marginally notable,
And which is unreferenced,
And which contains potentially damaging claims (that he appears on a gay video site).

Case closed. It's got to go, and as soon as possible. Herostratus (talk) 04:54, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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