Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/André-François Bourbeau

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep - consensus is that better sourcing has gotten it through. Mojo Hand (talk) 18:52, 1 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

André-François Bourbeau

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WP:BLP of a writer and survivalist, relying entirely on primary sources (book's sales profile on the website of the company that published it, the website of his father's company, etc.) with not even one proper reliable source anywhere in the entire article. (The article was also guilty of significant refbombing problems, citing Amazon and Barnes & Noble sales pages — which still aren't reliable sources — in addition to the publisher's page, and reduplicating some references up to ten times.) He certainly might qualify to keep a properly sourced article, but none of our inclusion rules confer any entitlement to have a Wikipedia article that cites no reliable source coverage at all. Delete unless major sourcing improvement can be located. Bearcat (talk) 22:38, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:37, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:37, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Notability is not based on the sources in an article, but the availability of sources -- and there are plenty of sources that confer notability:

http://www.cbc.ca/breakaway/2013/11/29/andre-francois-bourbeaus-wilderness-secrets/
http://www.quebecpeche.com/actualites/trouvailles-et-nouveaux-produits/1643-le-surviethon-vingt-cinq-ans-plus-tard-parandre-francois-bourbeau.html
http://www.espaces.ca/categorie/actualites/a-lire-et-a-voir/article/341-surviethon-au-gre-de-la-nature
http://ici.radio-canada.ca/emissions/lapres-midi_porte_conseil/2011-2012/chronique.asp?idChronique=186278
http://www.courrierdusaguenay.com/Culture/2011-11-15/article-2805673/Le-Surviethon-revisite-25-ans-plus-tard/1
http://www.lereveil.ca/actualites/actualites/156781/la-survie-racontee-aux-anglophones

T.C.Haliburton^{talk nerdy to me} 01:47, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The article now has multiple, reliable, third-party sources, some of which were suggested by T.C. Haliburton above. These sources all cite Bourbeau as a notable survival expert and include major newspapers (such as La Presse of Montreal and the Ottawa Sun), and national radio talk shows (Radio Canada - www.cbc.ca). Bourbeau was also interviewed by QMI Agency (Quebecor Media Inc), another major news outlet, as a noted survival expert. In addition, there is an academic journal article (Henderson and Potter) that cites and describes Bourbeau and his outdoor education program favorably.

These multiple, third party sources are now in the article and clearly establish this person's notability. Thank you very much. 72.80.191.75 (talk) 20:18, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep: terribly promotional and desperate to survive AFD by way of bombardment, I still think it scrapes by AFD. Badly in need of cleanup, however. Vrac (talk) 14:09, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Upon a source review, the subject meets WP:BASIC. Various matters regarding the article can be addressed by copy editing it. NORTH AMERICA¹⁰⁰⁰ 18:33, 1 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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