Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amy Ferguson

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The result was Keep. ^King Jakob _C2 23:45, 8 March 2013 (UTC) Non-admin closure[reply]

Amy Ferguson[edit]

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Fails WP:ENT and WP:GNG. No notable roles, limited coverage in reliable sources. (Prod removed: "This is not speedy worthy. Appeared in multiple notable films/TV shows including a significant role in The Master." The role in question, "Martha the salesgirl" is pretty far down the list and does not appear in our plot summary.) SummerPhD (talk) 15:13, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been ihncluded in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:56, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Significant roles in both The Master and Hart of Dixie. Just because a character isn't yet mentioned in WP's relatively brief plot summary has nothing to do with the notability of an actor in that film (it doesn't mention Laura Dern's role either). If The New Republic calls Ferguson "the most arresting woman in the film," [1] then the person is significant. Very significant coverage here too. --Oakshade (talk) 16:18, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Her "significant roles" in both of these productions fails to garner a mention on either page? Remarkable. We'll build a "reasonably detailed" article based on this (the only source in the article)? Impossible.

To find her role in Hart of Dixie on IMDb: Go to the main page, past the main cast, click on full cast and crew. There she is: listed with the 12 people appearing in 2 episodes, after the 43 people appearing in more than 2. Their plot descriptions don't mention her or her character. Our lengthy list of episodes is similarly lacking.

To find her role in The Master on IMDb: Go the main page, skip the "First Billed" cast, click for full cast and crew. After 8 labeled "V.A. Patient" and 7 as "Potential Customer" is "Martha the salesgirl". Their significantly longer synopsis, like our plot summary, doesn't mention her. - SummerPhD (talk) 17:03, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just so you know, the IMDB list for The Master is in order of appearance as is customary in film credits. Philip Seymour Hoffman and Amy Adams are also listed after the 8 "V.A. Patient"s and 7 "Potential Customer"s. --Oakshade (talk) 17:15, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Personally I think this article is middle-of-the-road in terms of notability. I'm wondering though, is there a reason why the Wikipedia article is a mere sentence in length? Oakshade has provided several examples of non-trivial coverage but are those sources considered acceptable for this encyclopedia? If the answer is "yes" then this discussion should end now. AMFMUHFVHF90922 (talk) 18:03, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oakshade's first source is a bare mention,; not much we can do with that. The second source (which calls all of her appearances "small roles") is, AFAICT, a blog, not a reliable source for anything here. - SummerPhD (talk) 20:50, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Marginal Keep. I'm on the fence with this one. Very little coverage of this actress: she had a significant (starring) role in Tanner Hall; for which she was interviewed here for Tribute magazine. She was also interviewed for WCPO-TV for a World Peace Yoga event. Unfortunately, notability on Wikipedia often comes down to who has hired a publicist, and who hasn't. dissolve^talk 20:30, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- So the barrier-to-entry for receiving your own Wikipedia article is lower than I initially believed. In the case of a software product, being reviewed by two blogs is sufficient. If you're an actor/model, hire a publicist? Got it. AMFMUHFVHF90922 (talk) 20:39, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I dug though the reviews IMDb gives for Tanner Hall, hoping to find something useful. The role seems to be fairly high up for this one, though I wouldn't say "Starring". Most, but not all, reviews mention the role but the vast majority are just mentions. Variety had the [most extensive coverage of those I looked at. Even that is quite skimpy ("...and sensitive Lucasta (Amy Ferguson, nicely understated) seem oblivious... Lucasta gradually becomes aware of her sexual preferences;..."). If I were Ferguson, I'd have the review in my scrapbook, along with the New Republic one. But there is really very little we can say about Ferguson (thus the one sentence article). - SummerPhD (talk) 21:04, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That she starred in the film is verifiable via The Newport Daily News[2] and The New York Times[3]. dissolve ^talk 21:22, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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