Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/American Idol Finalists Album Sales

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy delete. Repost G4. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 20:43, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

American Idol Finalists Album Sales

Wikipedia isn't a fan's guide to American Idol. The album sales of each Idol finalist is listed on the individual pages, there is no reason for a page like this on Wikipedia. RobJ1981 01:17, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per nom. EvilCouch 01:23, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as the article does categorize something that is significant and relates to a major TV show (business) and so in the spirit of an encyclopedia cataloguing human knowledge, something like this is indeed much warranted. I am in agreement that the article can be improved, as some have taken steps to do, but definitely keep this valuable article. --172.149.149.117 01:46, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note This was 172.149.149.117's first edit on Wikipedia.--Hús ö nd 04:22, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Wasn't this article delete before? TJ Spyke 01:49, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy Delete under G4. Thanks DO, I knew I had saw this nominated before. TJ Spyke 02:24, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep Can it be improved? Yes. Should it be improved? Sure. Nevertheless, this is a valid and helpful article that meets encyclopedic standards and so really does need to remain. Happy Halloween! --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles 01:57, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: User has 32 edits. ςפקι Д Иτς ☺ ☻ 02:47, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Delete G4 as recreated material. This article (along with a trail of redirects/moves) was deleted in an AfD. --Daniel Olsen 02:06, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Delete as per above. ςפקιДИτς ☺☻ 02:40, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: User is notoriously pro-delete, i.e. "delete happy."

Delete. Redundant information, as nominated. Mr Spunky Toffee 03:33, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Almost frighteningly strong keep. Not really redundant. Some of the contestants currently do NOT have their album sales listed, so some of this IS from non-contestant pages and this is far more handy than expecting users to have so much time as to want to compare every single Idol contestant ever to study these statistics, which are practical to individuals interested in the music industry, television, etc. and not just fans of the show. --172.163.162.176 03:46, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note This was 172.163.162.176's first edit on Wikipedia.--Hús ö nd 04:22, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely keep. for all of the rational reasons above. --64.12.117.10 03:49, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Delete under G4 Besides G4 - Fancruft. Not encyclopedic. Wikipedia is not a free webhost for fan pages. Wikipedia is not a reality tv almanac. Go make a American Idol website on Wikia or something instead Bwithh 03:58, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Delete (G4) Idolcruft.--Hús ö nd 04:18, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note " Hús tends to go after Wikidians at a whim.

Speedy Keep You heard right! Screw all this speedy delete crap! Let's start keeping more articles as many of these are indeed relevant and interesting to a variety of Wikipedians and we shouldn't just cater to a minority. --172.128.93.144 04:30, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note " --172.128.93.144 04:30, 31 October 2006 (UTC) has atcually made hundreds of contributions to Wikipedia, just on many different computers in different cities! He's also right! :)[reply]

Note This was 172.128.93.144's first edit on Wikipedia.--Hús ö nd 04:58, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note WHO CARES?! --172.131.213.162 05:20, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The closing admin cares - a well-explained comment from an established user is more likely to swing the decision than an offhand sarcastic comment from a random IP (and while I won't cry sockpuppet right away, may I point out that almost all the keep votes come from a similar IP range?) Confusing Manifestation 10:39, 31 October 2006 (UTC) (Edit: Ah, of course, AOL. Still, I'd say there's a fair amount of similarity in the votes, sockpuppet or not.)[reply]

Merge Very fancrufty, and the precedent it sets isn't necessarily good. Merge relevant info onto finalists personal pages, album pages and on the American Idol page where it belongs. This information is superfluous, it should be on the other relevant pages. --The Way 05:08, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, but we AOL and public computer users might have made AS MANY changes as registered users, but you guys won't know that because of using different IPs. Most of these reasons for deletion are hardly well-explained or non-sarcastic. They tend to insult users who try to create articles that are helpful and interesting to various readers. I really do think that some users are getting too quick to delete articles, when it would be far more useful to maintain as many articles as possible so as to best catalog human knowledge. --172.163.63.151 12:51, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's a Keeper! --172.131.213.162 05:20, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete There is no reason why this needs to be an article on its own Green hornet 05:23, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, there are a LOT more reasons to keep than not to. --172.135.150.253 05:28, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Crufty and redundant. The notes and references section says it all. Rockpocket 05:57, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete — Idolcruft. Dionyseus 07:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete per CSD G4, recreation of previously deleted material--TBCΦtalk? 08:06, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete per above. If anyone wants to tag it, feel free, however I'm sure the AfD result will be the same as the CSD result. Daniel.Bryant ^{[ T · C ]} 09:53, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete per CSD G4 or simply Delete, as redundant, pointless listcruft. Xtifr _tälk 11:07, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete CSD G4. Also I entirely agree with Xtifr: "redundant, pointless listcruft". BTLizard 12:19, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep Lots of good points to keep this relevant and valuable article. --172.163.63.151 12:47, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note = Happy Halloween! :)

Delete per WP:NOT a collection of indescriminate information. This should be in individual artist articles. Anon flood largely lacks a coherent inclusion argument... Could even go speedy per Daniel...--Isotope23 17:18, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep A collection of relevant and useful information that would be cumbersome for users to locate if dispersed throughout all contestants' articles. This article is convenient and useful and if anything should just be revised and expanded upon. Most arguments for deletion lack a reasonable argument. To be simplistic, the article isn't hurting anybody and nor does it detract from Wikipedia in anyway. If anything, it adds to Wikipedia and therefore would be a shame if taken down. And, I'll echo the Happy Halloween wishes! I don't know how old all of you are (some appear to be pretty young), so be safe trick or treating! Sincerely, --164.107.92.120 17:57, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Delete and ignore silly anon sockpuppetry. Danny Lilithborne 18:01, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Wikipedia is not a random collection of information. Edison 18:17, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.