Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amarok (software)

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The result was Keep — Amarok is clearly notable software and the original nominator has since weighed in with a "keep". I'll treat that as a withdrawn by nominator, and since there are no dissenters ... a close it is. Cyde Weys 04:02, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Amarok (software)[edit]

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Not noticeable or remarkable product. No one single reliable and independent reference that backs it up. Google-ing it returns mainly references to the Volkswagen pickup truck (not sure if there is a trademark infringement here). Valid references to this product in Google, at first sight, are coming from non-independent sources. Miguel.mateo (talk) 22:46, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Here are two independent sources: [1][2]

Probably these two as well: [3][4]. Beyond that it's a popular Linux media player. --Falcorian ^(talk) 04:54, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Googling +amarok +kde returns "about 10,600,000" hits; surely that accounts for something. 83.254.69.39 (talk) 08:33, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's one of the main KDE media players, version 2.3 just released[5]. It has it's own Sourceforge page[6] (I'm sure there's a way to get user stats & popularity from Sourceforge). Plus here's another independent source: [7]. Growdigital 17 March 2010 —Preceding undated comment added 08:36, 17 March 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Keep. Amarok is probably the leading music player for Linux. Without searching too hard, I'd cite the above mentioned Linux.com and Linux Magazine links, as well as somewhat frequent mentions in The Register, like this one. / edg ☺ ☭ 12:29, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep but serious re-write needed. Given references like Linux.com and Linux Magazine, I think that 'is not remarkable' is out of the question. But the article does not contain one single reference to any of the sources you all have mentioned! Blogs are by definition independent but non-trusted source and in general they are not accepted as references in Wikipedia. The structure of the article, showing too little about the product itself and giving mainly a list features of releases, look to me like Wikipedia is being used as a product's personal blog. Categories are also incorrect, I found it by following an 'iPhone OS' category ... Miguel.mateo (talk) 15:00, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Amarok is undoubtedly the most well-known music player on KDE. I'll add the the long list of reliable and independent refs by linking to Bruce Byfield's article on Amarok on LWN.net. -- simxp (talk) 16:49, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Did you put any real effort into looking for sources? Here's a user-base statistic [8], courtesy of Debian Popcorn, which attests to over 7K user installations, just within their sample set. Resistor (talk) 22:29, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Almost every X11 user knows Amarok. --KAMiKAZOW (talk) 22:49, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep. I'll assume good faith on the submitter's part, but cursory searches of Google News archives gives plenty of independent reliable sources. Everyone should do at least a little research before nominating articles for deletion, they might even be able to improve an article's sourcing instead of nominating it for deletion! —siro χ o 00:47, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.