Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alodia Gosiengfiao (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. There is no consensus here on whether this person passes the notability guidelines or not. Davewild (talk) 13:43, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alodia Gosiengfiao

Questioning the basis for having a wikipedia entry for the subject, as this looks more like a vanity page than anything else. While granted, about as relevant as having a Paris Hilton entry in wikipedia, would also like to point out that the latter was already famous worldwide BEFORE a wikipedia entry about her was ever made. This person does not suffer from the same kind of fame. Granting a wiki page for every person with minor mentions in one or two short newspaper articles opens the Pandora's box for every minor cosplayer to do same. Wikipedia is cluttered with trivialities already as it is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Benderfield (talk • contribs) — Benderfield (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

No, no, no and again, no. (sighs) these fanboys still don't get it. I'd still stick with the same arguments propounded in the first edit (not that notable enough, apparently sourced entry actually came from a web-only blog of a Philippine newspaper in general circulation, no other mention other than in that newspaper)...I'd vote for a delete. --- Tito Pao (talk) 06:23, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. —bluemask ^(talk) 07:41, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep on the grounds that it passed AFD with a pretty convincing keep decision only a few months ago. Please bear in mind WP:IDONTLIKEIT is not valid rationale for nominating an article. There is an appeals process out there if you really feel strongly that this article doesn't belong, but on May 7 it was kept after undergoing the AFD process and for AFD to remain viable articles that are kept cannot be re-nominated after such a short interval in order to get a desired result. I know there's the whole "consensus can change" argument that is addressed at WP:NOTAGAIN, however I don't believe consensus can change in only a few months. 23skidoo (talk) 13:49, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:01, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
strong delete not remotely notable, no WP:RS [1] . Sticky Parkin 01:55, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please bear in mind that web archiving in the Philippines is not Google-friendly. Starczamora (talk) 09:42, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Her again? The subject, although little known in mainstream entertainment, has received numerous valid citations as a cosplayer. Starczamora (talk) 09:42, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Where in WP:RS? Links please:) Sticky Parkin 13:26, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. All i heard from her are bits from news stories. Very popular in the local blogosphere though. Web archiving is accessible in the Philippines if you use the Internet Archive#Wayback Machine. –Howard the Duck 03:51, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - There is this article and this article where she is the primary subect which establishes notability. Oddly though, the only reference in the article is from a press release. -- Whpq (talk) 17:47, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for digging them out. I don't know if two articles in the same publication, in 'youth' and 'lifestyle' sections, (presuming these were published IRL) and not many other mentions in WP:RS, make her notable. I suspect not. We usually want someone to have been mentioned more than twice. Is there a Phillipines wikipedia? She might be more notable there, but probably not a lot. The one article goes on about the success of her Deviantart page.:) Sticky Parkin 14:32, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reply - These links were from the first AFD. It a couple of articles where she is the main subject is enough to clear the notability bar for me. Wikipedia is not paper. -- Whpq (talk) 15:05, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.