Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ally Isom

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to 2022 United States Senate election in Utah#Republican primary. Consensus is against keeping, and this is the standard solution in such cases. Can be recreated if she becomes more notable. Sandstein 15:37, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ally Isom[edit]

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Use of deprecated sources. Might fail GNG. Upon Google search, there are a few results from reliable sources, but mostly passing mentions, no significant coverage. Tame (talk) 10:02, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - No significant coverage and also appears to be a resume/cv. Wikipedia is not a resume per WP:RESUME Such-change47 (talk) 12:45, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Unreliable sources and fails WP:GNG. -Cupper52^Discuss! 20:58, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
~~Comment~~ Keep I have taken out all references to her political website. I then added in coverage of her from the Salt Lake Tribune, the Washington Post, PBS NewsHour, and other sources. Coverage of her is mostly in Utah, but it extends prior to her current run for Senate. When she joined Herbert's staff^[1] and left ^[2] it was covered in the Salt Lake Tribune. Her comments about the Republican Party and Donald Trump have also received coverage.^[3]^[4] On PBS NewsHour she has spoken on the lack of women in Utah politics.^[5]DaffodilOcean (talk) 23:20, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am changing to keep because I feel her notability pre-dates her latest electoral run. Even if she doesn't win, she is notable for her actions in the past. DaffodilOcean (talk) 04:53, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Gehrke, Gary (December 29, 2010). "Herbert names new spokeswoman". The Salt Lake Tribune. Retrieved 2022-01-16. Gov. Gary Herbert named Ally Isom as his new deputy chief of staff and communications director Wednesday as part of a major overhaul of his senior staff heading into the legislative session.
^ Gehrke, Robert (November 16, 2013). "Herbert's deputy chief of staff leaving for more family time". The Salt Lake Tribune. Retrieved 2022-01-16.
^ Rolly, Paul (November 11, 2016). "Rolly: Herbert's former spokeswoman quits the GOP". The Salt Lake Tribune. Retrieved 2022-01-16. "Dear GOP, you may have won an election yesterday, but you lost me," wrote Ally Isom, who now is director of Family and Community Relations for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
^ "Robert Gehrke: Frustrated with Trump, these LDS women are calling for change, but will it matter?". The Salt Lake Tribune. Retrieved 2022-01-16.
^ "Why does Utah have so few female legislators?". PBS NewsHour. 2016-10-09. Retrieved 2022-01-16.

Keep per WP:HEY by DaffodilOcean, and WP:BASIC/WP:GNG - Meet Ally Isom, the latest Republican seeking to defeat Utah Sen. Mike Lee in 2022 (The Salt Lake Tribune, July 2021) is in-depth, significant coverage focused on her, her career, and her current U.S. Senate candidacy. Before she declared her candidacy, she was targeted by the Club for Growth (SLT, June 2021). She was previously the subject of news coverage, e.g. 'Is it always us vs. them?': Mormon official denounces 'hyperpolarized rhetoric,' notes nuances regarding gays (SLT, August 2016), Rolly: Herbert's former spokeswoman quits the GOP (SLT, November 2016). There is also Campaign of ideas: Senate candidate Isom addresses college students at Provo campaign stop (Daily Herald, October 2021), Another Republican woman steps up take on Sen. Mike Lee (Deseret News/MSN, July 2021), Ally Isom announced she’s running for US Senate (KSL News Radio, July 2021), which includes biographical, career, and campaign information. Beccaynr (talk) 04:06, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment FEI, at the time of my nomination, the article contained peacock terms, puffery words, and as other users pointed, it was written like a resume. It had laughable sources. From LinkedIn to YouTube. BTW, currently, the article is much much better by several orders of magnitude if we are to compare to the previous version. So kudos to the editors who improved it. Although, I'm still reluctant to say this article should be kept.-- Tame (talk) 07:19, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:GNG, Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material, and per WP:BASIC, If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability, and both appear met with WP:SUSTAINED coverage. Another example is how her past opposition to Trump has recently received coverage, e.g. Both Of Sen. Mike Lee’s GOP Challengers Opposed Trump — That Could Hurt Them In The Primary (KUER-FM, July 2021), and she continues to receive coverage, e.g. Fallout continues from Utah tech boss' antisemitic COVID-19 conspiracy email (Deseret News, January 2022). The sources identifed in this discussion can help further develop the article due to the depth of information available. Beccaynr (talk) 19:50, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify and retarget to 2022 United States Senate election in Utah#Republican primary. As the creator of this article, which was created as a redirect, it does not yet meet WP:GNG, but could meet it if Isom wins a primary. In that case, draftify it so it can be worked on so that an article can be created if Isom wins the primary, and change the redirect target that arises as a result of the move to the page of the election which Isom is running in, which is the Republican primary of the 2022 United States Senate election in Utah, as per convention of not-yet notable American political candidates. Muhibm0307 (talk) 07:45, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with @Muhibm0307's proposal. Tame (talk) 07:50, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to 2022 United States Senate election in Utah#Republican primary. This is a usual and appropriate outcome for candidates for Congress (see WP:POLOUTCOMES). --Enos733 (talk) 20:15, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to 2022 United States Senate election in Utah#Republican primary: Fails GNG and NPOL. ––FormalDude talk 00:16, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] Gehrke, Gary (December 29, 2010). "Herbert names new spokeswoman". The Salt Lake Tribune. Retrieved 2022-01-16. Gov. Gary Herbert named Ally Isom as his new deputy chief of staff and communications director Wednesday as part of a major overhaul of his senior staff heading into the legislative session.

[2] Gehrke, Robert (November 16, 2013). "Herbert's deputy chief of staff leaving for more family time". The Salt Lake Tribune. Retrieved 2022-01-16.

[3] Rolly, Paul (November 11, 2016). "Rolly: Herbert's former spokeswoman quits the GOP". The Salt Lake Tribune. Retrieved 2022-01-16. "Dear GOP, you may have won an election yesterday, but you lost me," wrote Ally Isom, who now is director of Family and Community Relations for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

[4] "Robert Gehrke: Frustrated with Trump, these LDS women are calling for change, but will it matter?". The Salt Lake Tribune. Retrieved 2022-01-16.

[5] "Why does Utah have so few female legislators?". PBS NewsHour. 2016-10-09. Retrieved 2022-01-16.

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