Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alexander Chmykhalov

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The result was delete. This was a difficult close, and I even found myself going back and forth several times as I evaluated the discussion. While the original nomination is indeed a poor (one might almost say invalid) argument, the notability concerns brought up in the discussion are more worrisome. Given that there is only one source, which is not even about Mr. Chmykhalov, there isn't enough verifiable material to support the claims that he is notable. If his list of credits could be verified, then I would agree he meets WP:ENT #1, so no prejudice against re-creation with sources for verifiability. —Darkwind (talk) 04:37, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander Chmykhalov[edit]

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Non-notable in English-speaking world; no reason for inclusion in English-language Wikipedia. Quis separabit? 19:11, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This is the English language encyclopedia of the entire world, not the encyclopedia of the English speaking world. Notability is worldwide and can be demonstrated by sources in any language, and notable actors performing in any language are eligible for articles. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 22:57, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep per Cullen328 and WP:ENTERTAINER. He is clearly notable as far as WP is concerned. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 23:30, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep, rationale is irrelevant. Furthermore, he has appeared in notable television shows. ^King Jakob _C2 00:13, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment While the rationale's mention of the English-language Wikipedia is inappropriate, the fundamental here is the question of notability. Looking at this case, the article is a largely autobiographical article about a young actor. He appears in a theatre, he has parts in some TV episodes, he does a local voiceover for SpongeBob SquarePants; does this amount to clear evidence of WP:NACTOR #1? AllyD (talk) 07:06, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ukraine-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:08, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:08, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The subject is clearly a working actor but even within the sparcely-sourced article I am not seeing clear signs of him being more than a man with a variety of jobs. The described film parts (witness, hooligan, guest worker etc.) do not indicate major roles, nor do the theatrical parts (parrot, soldier, postman, etc.). At best this appears to be WP:TOOSOON. But there may be Ukrainian sources that do constitute solid evidence of his attained WP:NACTOR notability, and if someone identifies such then I am happy to revise that opinion. AllyD (talk) 22:07, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Too soon? He's the title character voice for Cleveland Brown in the The Cleveland Show in the Ukraine. Mkdw ^talk 20:37, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep being notable in English sources is not an inclusion criteria. The delete motion should fail on faulty logic.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:24, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment So is the preferance to take this particular nomination to a speedy procedural close - after which I will re-nominate on the grounds that the subject does not meet WP:NACTOR? AllyD (talk) 18:36, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep appears to be notable and also per the above keeping comments raised. Mediran (t • c) 11:46, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep As a voice actor, he seems to be, in Ukrainian television, on the same level as Clancy Brown or Tom Kenny. That's Notable enough. Comment: I have been discouraged by the lack of coverage of international television, and rather than forcing us to prove his notability (his credit list speaks for itself) we should encourage more writing about non-English performers and performances. Listmeister (talk) 14:37, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete do not see any evidence that the subject has had any significant roles, has a large fan base, or made any significant contributions; fails WP:NACTOR. J04n(talk page) 18:10, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Notability is notability. There is no distinction between languages. He holds the titled voice roles in a nationally syndicated television series: Cleveland Brown for The Cleveland Show in the Ukraine. For those not familiar with the show, it's Seth MacFarlane's spin off series from Family Guy. I think this is the prime example of WP:NACTOR #1, the fact that he's done voice over for other Nickelodeon series such as SpongeBob SquarePants only supports the criteria. Mkdw ^talk 20:35, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete. I checked for sources in Russian and was not able to find anything that hinted at notability according WP:GNG. Note also that the article is an autobiography.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:34, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or userfy, per WP:TOOSOON. While there are plenty of roles listed, I agree that they don't yet meet the criterion of "significance" set by WP:ENTERTAINER; Chmykhalov's theatrical roles seem to be entirely in youth theater, and his cartoon-voiceover work is for seasons or portions of seasons. If kept, the article needs a much better translation; the prose is barely comprehensible. Miniapolis 14:42, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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