Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alana Grace (2nd nomination)

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The result was keep. Consensus is the sourcing isn't limited to local and she's therefore notable. I'd advise TPH that comments such as Alana Grace hasn't done jack shit outside of Nashville are neither helpful nor civil. Star Mississippi 13:03, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Alana Grace

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Non-notable musician. Did a couple of soundtrack songs and played on a couple tours, but established no notability of her own. Zero sourcing found. Previously survived an AFD in 2006 on the existence of the soundtrack cut, but that's not enough when there's nothing else to say about her that confers notability. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 00:49, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - not finding (any) evidence of notability in reliable sources Mujinga (talk) 03:34, 31 March 2022 (UTC) changing to keep after more sources found Mujinga (talk) 09:49, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, zero significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. Brian O'Conner 22:48, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - She seems to have coverage in newspapers, mainly from various columnists across the years in The Tennessean:
- "Pop artist Alana Grace lightens up on 'Word'" and part two of the article, The Tennessean, Peter Cooper, 8 September 2009, pg. D1 and D3
- "The 'Traveling Pants' make a Nashville stop" The Tennessean, Brad Schmitt, 24 May 2005, page 3A
- "Alana Grace becomes show host", The Tennessean, Beverly Keel, 26 January 2009, pg. A3
- "Grace shows grace with rich folks", The Tennessean, Beverly Keel, 13 Sep 2006, pg. A3
- "The Women of Warped", Tampa Bay Times, Jay Cridlin, 24 July 2009, pg. 86
- "Nashville teen sings for Babs and Tom Hanks", The Tennessean, Brad Schmitt, 27 March 2002, pg. 3A
- "Big in 2006?", The Indianapolis Star, 15 Jan 2006, pg. I1
- It might also be worth mentioning she has opened for Heart,[1], KISS,[2] and The All-American Rejects,[3] (the last two of which were at fairs), and performed on the Today Show,[4] although on their own I think these only indicate the possibility of notability. With the sources, she may meet WP:GNG or WP:BASIC, but I'm curious what others think. - Whisperjanes (talk) 21:31, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @Whisperjanes: Given that all but one of those is from the city where she lives, I'm tempted to say they don't count because they're all local person-of-interest stories. Also, opening for another act is not an assertation of notability on itsoown. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 21:39, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep passes WP:GNG which includes regional sources such as The Tennesseean which cant be discredited just because she lived in the state. That exclusion does not even apply to companies and organisations as regional sources are permitted. Tennessee is larger than many small countries so a person of state-wide interest should certainly be included in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 23:56, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's not Tennessee, it's entirely Nashville. There are literally thousands of musicians who get day-in, day-out coverage in Nashville but are completely unknown outside of it. Alana Grace hasn't done jack shit outside of Nashville. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 20:09, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 01:46, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Middle Tennessee is not entirely Nashville.

Comment – The statement above, "It's not Tennessee, it's entirely Nashville", is incorrect. While the The Tennessean is based in Nashville, its circulation covers 39 out of the 41 counties in Middle Tennessee and eight counties in southern Kentucky. This is certainly regional coverage, and certainly not "just Nashville", not by a long shot. Southern Kentucky is also not just Nashville, it's entirely part of another state. Also, WP:BASIC has no requirement for sources to be non-local based or regional in nature. Also, it's irrelevant whether or not the musician has worked outside of Nashville, as this notion is not included in any deletion policies or guidelines. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:34, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 07:48, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - ivo sources in article and listed by Whisperjanes: passes WP:SINGER #1. Springnuts (talk) 08:26, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, changing to keep Mujinga (talk) 09:48, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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