Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al-jamiatul Arabia Lil Baneena Wal Banaat Haildhar Anwara

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 00:24, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Al-jamiatul Arabia Lil Baneena Wal Banaat Haildhar Anwara[edit]

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The article claims the institution is the first and largest Qawmi Madrasah in Bangladesh, which means sources have to be out there. I didn't find anything searching. So, unless we have some Bengali speakers who can bring sources, the article is quite failing ... Arthistorian1977 (talk) 08:09, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. clpo13_(talk) 09:04, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. clpo13_(talk) 09:04, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep if sources can be found. Large tertiary educational institution. Obvious keep if sources can be found to prove its existence, although I agree they're not obvious. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:29, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete in its current state. I'll reconsider if someone finds sources, because I am unable to find anything either (also tried Haildhar Madrasah, which is supposed to be its popular name). - HyperGaruda (talk) 13:55, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think I have located the school at 22°11′47″N 91°56′04″E / 22.1964°N 91.9345°E. It is at least consistent with a search for "Haildhar" in the Chittagong area and with the image of a long building next to a small body of water/pond. Considering its location, I doubt it is such a "large tertiary educational institution". More like a primary school, as "li'l-Banīna wa'l-Banāt" translates to "for Boys and Girls". - HyperGaruda (talk) 14:38, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom and no visible sign of notability. There are also no citation to the claims in the article.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 16:16, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Draftify or delete. The original author is still adding content, but so far hasn't named a single independent reliable source. The closest thing I could find, using several variations on the name, was a Daily Azadi news blurb (in Bengali) about a motorcycle accident in Anwara Upazila near the gate of Haildhar Madrasah. That doesn't confirm that it's an institution of at least secondary education (the usual threshold to avoid redirection, per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES), and is mighty thin evidence on which to base a 3.5 Kb article. The Ministry of Education map shows a madrasa at roughly the position identified by HyperGaruda, but calls it Malghar Ahamadia Taibia Sunnia Dakhil Madrasha. --Worldbruce (talk) 20:51, 26 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 01:10, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

According to this chart of the Bangladeshi educational system, a dakhil madrasah is a form of secondary education. If Al-jamiatul Arabia and Malghar Ahamadia Taibia Sunnia Dakhil Madrasha are indeed the same, then we are dealing with a secondary institution. However, school notability is covered by WP:NORG#Primary criteria, which is basically an applied version of WP:GNG and thus good sourcing is the most important. - HyperGaruda (talk) 19:33, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The author has created three articles on this topic before. In February 2015, RHaworth deleted Al-jameatul Arabiah lil baneena wal banaat Hailder anwara and Al-Jameatul Arabiah Lil-Baneena Wal Banaat as duplicates, and Materialscientist deleted Al-Jameatul Arabiah Lil-Baneena Wal-Banaat, Haildhar, Anwara after this deletion discussion. I'm changing my recommendation to outright delete because the five participants in the previous discussion found no sources and because although the author has had another year to look for sources, they haven't identified any. Worldbruce (talk) 19:18, 31 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

DELETE Non-notable school and obvious promotion. Kingoflettuce (talk) 14:04, 1 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete at best until a better convincing article is available. SwisterTwister talk 03:45, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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