Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aksel Kankaanranta

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The result was keep. Consensus is that he does indeed meet NMUSIC Star Mississippi 15:35, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Aksel Kankaanranta

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Most notable for being selected to take part in Eurovision, however that appearance never materialized due to the cancellation of the contest. Subject fails to satisfy WP:MUSICBIO, as most coverage is related to Eurovision with largely trivial mentions or brief summaries across articles. Only recording as a solo artist, the selected entry, did not chart in home market. Grk1011 (talk) 20:24, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:26, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Finland-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:26, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Subject is notable per point 9 of WP:NMUSIC ”Has won first, second or third place in a major music competition.” per second place in The Voice a high rated show and win in ESC national selection. And point 12, ”Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or television network.”. Also per WP:GNG. BabbaQ (talk) 20:40, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Winning or placing top 3 in The Voice (American TV series) (or even UK, Germany or other, may indeed meet MUSICBIO No. 9) but this was The Voice of Finland and is far from a notable national competition. The Finns did not even see fit to creating an article for him. Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:05, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - There is an article about him on Finnish Wikipedia [1]. So in fact they do see it fit. BabbaQ (talk) 06:24, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - for the reason given of those who want to keep this article. Davidgoodheart (talk) 01:16, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. That is not how Eurovision works. In order to represent Finland, you win the Uuden Musiikin Kilpailu, which means something in itself. It's not merely a selection. Also, most relevant media would be in Finnish. Example, another one. /Julle (talk) 02:33, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. While the nomination was in good faith, it failed to grasp the sigcov that is shown in other Wikipedias; statements like "the Finns did not even see fit to creating an article for him" is also untrue. In addition to Kankaanranta's own music competition merits, he was a featuring artist on a charted #1 single in Finland [2] Geschichte (talk) 06:51, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nomination; Eurovision participation did not materialise and attempt to win UMK again were unsuccessful. In addition I feel calling on The Voice of Finland for notability would bring WP:REALITYSINGER into effect, which I don't believe have been satisfied with this article. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 08:51, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Have added the fact that Aksel have a had a number 1 song on the Finnish singles chart. BabbaQ (talk) 09:02, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"Attempt to win UMK again". So you recognize that he won once? Isn't that notable? And what about the sigcov in Finnish newspapers? Geschichte (talk) 09:26, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It is notable as part of the preparations for Eurovision, which is why it is included in Finland in the Eurovision Song Contest 2020. The sigcov is about Finland at Eurovision, not specifically about the singer. To me, that's what the guideline means by trivial mentions of an individual. He's certainly a big part of the act, but that's why we have an article that talks about the act and details his involvement. There appears to be very little out there independent of this one event (and the same event the next year). Grk1011 (talk) 17:51, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Aksel has had two charting songs on the Finnish music singles chart, one of them charting at number one. He covers WP:NMUSIC. BabbaQ (talk) 09:02, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Twice he was a featured artist on another artist's single that charted [3]. He has not had a single or album chart as a solo artist. The part that gets me though, is that the song "Looking Back" that he won with at the 'notable event' did not chart. I believe that speaks to the magnitude, or lack thereof, of the accomplishment. Had he gone on to represent the nation at Eurovision, this would be a different story. Grk1011 (talk) 17:51, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - as per reasons noted above - qualification for Eurovision to represent Finland is notable in this case - and also on the basis there is Finnish language sources for RS. Deathlibrarian (talk) 01:58, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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