Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ajay Amrit

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. GlassCobra 20:38, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ajay Amrit[edit]

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I'm not finding sufficient sources or references to prove that subject of this autobiography meets any notability requirements. Dori ❦ (Talk ❖ Contribs ❖ Review) ❦ 02:38, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. -- -SpacemanSpiff^{Calvin‡Hobbes} 04:14, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. -- -SpacemanSpiff^{Calvin‡Hobbes} 04:14, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No references to meet WP:BIO and a Google search [1] and search of Google News [2] don't turn up any in-depth coverage of Mr Amrit. Nick-D (talk) 07:01, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:01, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Its seems quite likely that Mr. Amrit created this article himself, though it really belongs on his personal URL, not here, if that's the case. But "Bula Bollywood" apparently may actually show on Fiji television for what that's worth. --Milowent (talk) 05:04, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Please refer to the following sites and search result on google to prove that this is a genuine article:
- http://www.ajaywebsite.com - this is Ajays Personal Website and has all the activites he is involved in. If you search Ajay Amrit on Google you will see his name in many articles in relation to what is stated in his website.
- http://www.carvingdream.com - this is ajays entertainment company
- Videos on You Tube from his TV series Bula Bollywood: [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10]

Also now more references has been added to verify that Ajay Amrit is also involved in Community Service and is a notable person in Fiji. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.170.37.10 (talk • contribs) 06:38, 18 September 2009

Reply: I don't know if User: 202.170.37.10 is also User:Dbau13, but the above comment by the former is virtually identical to the comment the latter left on my talk page a few days ago. Consequently, I'll just repeat here some of what I said there:

It sounds like you're laboring under several misapprehensions, so I'll try to straighten them out:
YouTube is not a reliable source for Wikipedia articles.

The fact that someone or something can be found by searching on Google does not, by any means, imply that they should have a WP article. If you think it does, feel free to write an article on my cat.

The subject's own Web site and own company's Web site don't count as reliable sources either.

The statement that "this is a genuine article" isn't a reason that the article can't be deleted. Actually, even if it is "a genuine article" about a genuine person, it still doesn't mean the article can't be deleted.

Before you [comment on the AFD], though, I strongly recommend that you go read a few Wikipedia articles on deletion and notability, such as WP:Notability (people), WP:Verifiability, WP:Reliable sources, WP:Why was my page deleted?, WP:Introduction to deletion process, WP:Articles for deletion/Common outcomes, WP:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions, and WP:List of policies and guidelines to cite in deletion debates.

Dori ❦ (Talk ❖ Contribs ❖ Review) ❦ 02:40, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep and submit article to Cleanup for a thorough sandblasting. The person recives some coverage in Fiji Times... which seems he may have a notability in Fiji... but if the article cannot be improved, it can go. MichaelQSchmidt (talk) 02:49, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Somewhat stronger than weak delete. He seems to be a person of some importance in Fiji, but I can't bring myself to call it notable. He's cited as Chairman of ABC Foundation in one article, but also of the Rotary Club in another. ABC Foundation itself doesn't seem to bring up anything more than his name does in gnews, and "Bula Bollywood" in gnews brings up nothing. the June 2009 Fiji TV schedule suggests that Bula Bollywood may be less "hugely popular" than the wp article suggests, but I could be judging a book by its cover there. Looking at the material that's there, and failing to find any other information ("Ajay Amrit", "ABC Corporation" +fiji, and "Bula Bollywood" all brough up zero hits in Proquest, Gale, and Ebsco databases, even as passing mentions), I have to conclude that he hasn't done enough of the things necessary to pass Wikipedia:Notability_(people), and the things he has done are also not of sufficient worldwide importance to warrant inclusion. I have a regretful, axeman, feeling about it for some reason, but I don't think he warrants an article. Some jerk on the Internet (talk) 22:17, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep per sources which indicated notability. plus alot of information found.--Judo112 (talk) 15:27, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - to make things more clear, I've just gone through the article and removed the citations that either didn't WP:RS (Amrit's own sites & YouTube, for example) and or didn't actually back up the statements in the article. All that's left is, well, a whole lot of uncited information and WP:OR. Dori ❦ (Talk ❖ Contribs ❖ Review) ❦ 03:56, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.