Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Air Tahoma Flight 587

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 14:41, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Air Tahoma Flight 587

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Tragic but not notable aviation accident. WP:NOTNEWS applies. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 21:46, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Meets WP:GNG per adequate, reliable, secondary references. Headphase (talk) 10:12, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP:aircrash: post-maintenance flight with incomplete pre-flight check, not commercial airline flight + WP:NOTNEWS "most newsworthy events do not qualify for inclusion".--Marc Lacoste (talk) 11:17, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment
- WP:AIRCRASH is not applicable: "Because this is an essay and not policy and also because it should not be applied to stand-alone accident articles, it is recommended that it not be cited at Articles for Deletion discussions for either keeping or deleting."
- "post-maintenance flight with incomplete pre-flight check" is irrelevant methodology for determining notability. Plenty of precedent exists for articles about air carrier accidents which occurred during non-revenue operations: Colgan Air Flight 9446 and Pinnacle Airlines Flight 3701 immediately come to mind.
- not commercial airline flight - incorrect, Air Tahoma was a Part 121-certificated airline.

Headphase (talk) 00:04, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - While tragic, it's not notable per WP:NOTNEWS. Doesn't meet GNG, most sources are primary, and no long-term significance shown by reliable sources. BilCat (talk) 00:18, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please clarify which of the sources are primary (or otherwise invalid for GNG?). As far as I can tell, they are all reliable and secondary in nature (except for the first which is tertiary). Additionally, WP:NOTNEWS is comprised of four points (original reporting, breaking news reports, who's who, gossip/diary). I'm not sure which of these are applicable in this instance. Headphase (talk) 01:35, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't respond to WP:BLUDGEONING. Sorry. BilCat (talk) 01:40, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwaiiplayer (talk) 12:55, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Leaning delete. There are the NTSB reports, but NTSB investigates and reports on all crashes. The AV Herald appears to be a single-person site (Simon Hradrecky) if I'm reading that right. I can't get to the CircleVille Herald article, but that is a very limited source. The Columbus Dispatch is a short news article. The only other possible RS is the Flight Global article, but I can't see that one either so I know know if it's just a pro forma crash news item or if it gives this crash some deeper attention. (The site reports on crashes, but I can't find anything saying what their editorial policy is - all crashes, selected crashes?) Lamona (talk) 01:41, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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