Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abe (Oddworld)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep (non-admin closure) — nomination withdrawn as stated below. Merger proposal can be found at Talk:Oddworld#Merge. MuZemike (talk) 22:36, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Abe (Oddworld)

This character does not establish notability independent of its series. Without coverage in reliable third party sources, it is just made up of unnecessary plot summary and original research. TTN (talk) 17:53, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletions. TTN (talk) 17:53, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge as usual for gam characters. Why was this be brought here in the first place? If the nom needs assistance in arguing for a merge, I'll be glad to help. DGG (talk) 00:06, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- It's a deletion based on a WP:N argument; the nom did not specify the article to be merged, and I don't think any of us has an ESP-crystal ball that can read AfD noms' minds. MuZemike (talk) 04:36, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge This is a fictional character of a video game series, the existence of which I doubt is widely known. Take only the essentials and merge it into the main Oddworld article; or if the essentials are there already, delete it altogether. DerekMBarnes (talk) 00:49, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, in particular, Wikipedia is not a game guide and Wikipedia is not a publisher of original thought. Merging the article would only introduce gameguide material with original research into another article. That is, unless reliable sources can be found. MuZemike (talk) 04:41, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to the game any content that can be sourced (which may be nothing). Stifle (talk) 18:54, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep A basic Google search shows a lot of reliable sources. I have added some real-world information to the article from these sources and trimmed the plot and what looked like original research (I haven't played these video games, so I can't tell WP:OR for sure). The video game itself can be used as a primary source for the bare-bones plot summary. The new version of the article is here. This character is in three (maybe more?) video games, but isn't in all of the games in the Oddworld series, so there is not just one article that his information can be merged to. This article has the potential to be like the Good Article Kratos (God of War), it just needs some knowledgeable editors and research. Bláthnaid ^talk 20:08, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The information can be merged into the series article, as they often cover recurring elements. I'll go ahead and withdraw this and just use a merge proposal for the relevant information. TTN (talk) 20:50, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just for the record, I oppose a merge. The main series article covers none of the areas that are written about in this article. All the sections in this article are relevant and can be developed further. Bláthnaid ^talk 20:59, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.