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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎ to Acute accent. Liz Read! Talk! 22:51, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A with acute (Cyrillic)

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Cyrillic letters marked with the acute accent for syllabic stress (as used in dictionaries and readers) are not distinct letters or “stressed variants” of letters, and don’t belong to any national alphabet. The articles about them are not notable subjects meeting WP:GNG, but merely the cross-section of the subject of the respective base letter with Acute accent or Stress (linguistics).

These articles were all previously AFD’d and soft deleted. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A with acute (Cyrillic). New edits didn’t discuss nor address the reasons for deletion.  —Michael Z. 18:48, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Other nominees are:

 —Michael Z. 18:50, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The exceptional article is U with acute (Cyrillic), which may possibly serve as a variant glyph for the letter Ў in the Karachay-Balkar language, but this remains un-cited in any article that I can find, and so also fails to satisfy GNG. (If it were cited, it should probably be only a redirect to the article about that letter.)  —Michael Z. 18:57, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete (or redirect to Accute accent). As the nom correctly notes, these are not distinct symbols, but just the combination of auxilliary stress markers with Cyrillic letters. This contrasts with e.g. á as a distinct letter in several Latin-based alphabets. –Austronesier (talk) 19:11, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect all as failing GNG Mach61 (talk) 23:14, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete or redirect to Acute accent. We don’t need a page for every single accent used in the Latin alphabet, only important ones. Also can’t find any sources relating to this page. Also note G4 since this page was deleted because of similar reasons. HarukaAmaranth 春香 00:34, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Nah, a soft delete is basically like an expired PROD, which anyone can request the undeletion of without question, so this recreation is fine in that respect and isn't eligible for G4. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 07:43, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom (without a redirect, as an unlikely search term, and misleading as well). Barring some kind of demonstration that these are in fact distinct letters and not ad hoc dictionary stress markings, this title shouldn't exist, even as a redirect. I can't access the source, but it seems to be a guidebook, which at best is primary and doesn't demonstrate anything other than this one book uses this as a stress marking (or whatever it actually does...I'm making an educated guess here). 35.139.154.158 (talk) 07:43, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all, for the reasons given above. I am also adding (1) Ukrainian Ye with acute. The article says "For example, the word прес-пап'є́ (Paperweight) uses this letter". Well, no, it doesn't. I made a Google search for "прес-пап'є́", with the accent, and checked the first 30 hits. Every one used "прес-пап'є", without the accent; none of them even mentioned the form with the accent as an alternative. ...and (2) Dotted I with acute. The article states that the letter is "usually only seen in dictionaries to display when a stressed accent is used in a word with I". There is only one reference in the article, and that one is a general page on the acute accent, which doesn't even mention this letter. A Google search for "Dotted I with acute" produced this Wikipedia article, an image showing this letter on Wikimedia commons, a YouTube video lasting 4 seconds which shows an animated jokey cartoon version of the letter, and a spam site which doesn't even mention the letter, but uses hidden text saying "Dotted I with acute" evidently for search engine optimisation, no doubt having found the expression by trawling Wikipedia. That was all; not even so much as a bare mention in any reliable source. It is perfectly clear that none of these accented letters are actually used in the languages in question, despite claims that they are by the editor who created the articles.JBW (talk) 15:12, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all per discussion. These are not real letters, but just the way to indicate a stressed syllable. As another indication, there are even no corresponding articles about these "letters" in the East Slavic language wikipedias. Regarding U with acute (Cyrillic), there is not enough info about it in the Karachay-Balkar language article to support keeping even a redirection. --Kammerer55 (talk) 16:56, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete All Redirect All to Acute accent (I did not know about the linking OwenX points out)-- For reasons very thoroughly beaten above, there is no encyclopaedic subject here. Cheers, Last1in (talk) 17:53, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all per above without redirects (very unlikely search terms). Cheers, Dan the Animator 06:45, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep redirects per Owen×'s point below (was not aware of that infobox before). Dan the Animator 19:03, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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