Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ASmallWorld (3rd nomination)

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 01:02, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

ASmallWorld[edit]

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I placed this article up for deletion since it has been listed as containing non-neutral content (advertising) for a long time. I also think think the page lacks notability WP:CORP. To wit, the content on this page links directly to promotion pieces put out by asmallworld when it launched and asmallworld has an extremely low ALEXA ranking. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mostlyoksorta (talk • contribs) 13:39, March 31, 2014 (UTC)

Comment I placed this nomination on behalf of the above user, as his attempt at AfD was incorrectly formatted. I copied the above rational from the incorrect AfD. Safiel (talk) 17:53, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. Jinkinson talk to me 18:03, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment There is ongoing suspicious deletion of critical edits occurring on the asmallworld page. Immediately, after I placed this article up for deletion, the primary person who has been maintaining the advertising tone on the page changed the Alexa ranking to reflect a 400,000 place rise for the site. Within hours a bot corrected the ranking back down to below 500,000. The same user has been creating a highly argumentative and accusative atmosphere - consistently deleting material based on 'non-neutral sources' the same sources are used throughout the article in support of advertising biased non-neutral content. (Mostlyoksorta (talk) 01:13, 1 April 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Get real. I have explained the change thoroughly → see: Talk:ASmallWorld#Alexa rank - yet you still choose to make such ill-affected accusations. Early 2012, "asmallworld.net" was ranked, at ca. 6000.
Also, I did not do any content changes, but only reverted original research and synthesis, i.e. restored the status quo ante version (from before the IP edits, see this version) Please note the Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle, which means retaining the status before the bold edit was made and reverted; i.e. "leave the article in the condition it was in before the Bold edit was made". I did offer Mostlyoksorta my help to rewrite the article - instead, the user did choose to continue his/her edit warring and to nominate the article for deletion. Please also see: Talk:ASmallWorld#Edit warring, sockpuppets, WP:OR & WP:SYNTH, proposed deletion of article --IIIraute (talk) 02:53, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I can only reiterate that I think this article should either be deleted or kept based on on Wikipedia's criteria, not on whatever personal accusations are being made. As for offers to edit you did that for Faceplant2020 not me. And as far as I can see, Faceplant2020 wrote you back accepting your offer. Whatever happened in the edit history of that article, which clearly includes non-neutral sockpuppeting in the creation of content on behalf of asmallworld, this articles of deletion debate should stick to the facts. (Mostlyoksorta (talk) 10:36, 1 April 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Keep Appears to, at the very least, satisfy WP:GNG, which is sufficient for inclusion. While fairly weak on WP:NCORP, in the end it doesn't matter, since it satisfies the general notability guidelines. It could stand editing for NPOV. I will not comment as to recent edits or anything about Alexa, as it really doesn't matter at this point, at least as far as keep/delete goes. Safiel (talk) 03:34, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment In regards to WP:GNG the sources in general only reflect a passing interest, all sources are from the time immediately surrounding the relaunch of the website in 2013, and they are generally consistent with a PR campaign rather then NPOV news reporting. Outside of a one or two month period there are no further NPOV sources.(Mostlyoksorta (talk) 14:06, 1 April 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Comment I would refer you to WP:NTEMP. Notability is not temporary. Once a subject has received sufficient coverage in reliable sources, it does not require ongoing coverage. The company received sufficient coverage in reliable sources at the time of its relaunch to establish notability. Once notability is established, it never goes away. I would have to reiterate my keep position. I should note that I have initiated many AfD's and participated in many more, most of the time going with the delete position. But the convergence of the Wikipedia policies of GNG and NTEMP constrain me to a keep position on this AfD. Safiel (talk) 19:37, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Thanks for your explanations. I am just wondering how this interacts with the idea of Routine Coverage. There is always a story that fills a paper for a day, based on a press release or whatever. I am not sure that their are any duration or depth of coverage under the notability standards. Anyway, I appreciate all your commentary and thought on this. (Mostlyoksorta (talk) 19:48, 1 April 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Keep kind of wacky reason for deletion, the article should be cleaned of hype and criticism, but there is plenty of external coverage. http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22asmallworld%22&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C32 Shii (tock) 19:09, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I don't want/have the time to check the guidelines for inclusion now, but the link provided by Shii seems a good start (if it is not disguised promotion). I'd like a good article on ASW because I only had very limited information and, when I were looking forward to know more, Wikipedia was my first stop. --Error (talk) 23:12, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, per views, and the large amount of reliable secondary sources that are available, for example here & here - and especially, because it was a very dull & time-wasting AfD nomination from the very beginning. --IIIraute (talk) 00:44, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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