Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A. Holly Shissler

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The result was redirect‎ to Between Two Empires. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 21:15, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A. Holly Shissler[edit]

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They are an associate professor, this biography appears to fail WP:NPROF, seemingly one published book to their name "Between Two Empires". This is quite well cited but doesn't seem sufficient to claim "significant" impact in their field to pass NPROF 1, and fails points NPROF 2 to NPROF 8 Polyamorph (talk) 18:58, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Polyamorph (talk) 18:58, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I recommend Redirect to Between Two Empires per its creation during the course of this AfD. Polyamorph (talk) 18:33, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~. The associate professor title wouldn't concern me if it were clear she was on her way up, but with a single 20-year-old book she appears to have stalled out at that level. There are multiple reviews of her one book [1] [2] [3] [4]. But one book with a modest number of academic reviews is not enough for WP:AUTHOR for me (it would be a weak keep if we had the same number of reviews split over two authored books) and there seems to be nothing else. If we had an article on the book we could redirect to it but we don't. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:21, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Now we do. Redirect. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:24, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
comment. I agree that she doesnt pass NAUTHOR or NPROF but it seems like the book itself would pass WP:NBOOK with those number of reviews and we could redirect this article to the book itself (even though I am somewhat unsure if the NBOOK guidelines were really designed with academic books in mind). --hroest 20:22, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
NBOOK is really just GNG in disguise. If a topic has multiple reliable independent sources published about it, then it is notable. GNG is a one-size-fits-all guideline with neither special consideration for topics which we might think notable but for which independent in-depth sourcing can be scarce (like major academic journals or societies) nor for topics which we might think routine but for which independent in-depth sourcing can be plentiful (like academic monographs). In this case, really the only throttle (without overthrowing GNG in favor of different notability thresholds for different topics) is whether some editor is interested enough to take the effort of making an article on the book. —David Eppstein (talk) 20:56, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, History, Turkey, California, Illinois, and Pennsylvania. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 20:30, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as above. Xxanthippe (talk) 21:43, 10 November 2023 (UTC).[reply]
Redirect to the brand new Between Two Empires. Thanks David Eppstein for digging up those reviews. —siro χ o 10:08, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Between Two Empires. XOR'easter (talk) 20:44, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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