Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/5 Elementz

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The result was redirect to Proof (rapper). Wizardman 15:15, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

5 Elementz

Hip hop group which fails WP:BAND and lacks non-trivial coverage by reliable sources. JBsupreme (talk) 20:26, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~A7 No assertation of notability. So tagged. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells• Otter chirps • HELP!)} 20:39, 25 July 2008 (UTC)~~[reply]
Strong delete I disagree with Townlake, but I'm changing my !vote just because the A7 was removed. No real assertation of notability per WP:MUSIC. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells• Otter chirps • HELP!)} 21:46, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not Eligible for Speedy The group's connection with Proof (a well known tragic figure in hip hop) is an assertion of notability, weak though it may be. Townlake (talk) 21:20, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~...and Keep~~ Ha, yes - with respect, me and Hammer do disagree. Proof was an early core member of this group, and was later a member of well-known group D12. When Proof died, the guys from 5 Elementz spoke at the funeral (which seems to have generated most of the reliable-source press the band generated; see here). Per WP:BAND - "Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable." This qualifies. Townlake (talk) 22:06, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If the otherwise notable member is the only thing that makes them meet WP:MUSIC, then a redirect or deletion would be better. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells• Otter chirps • HELP!)} 23:24, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We'll see. I added an interview source just now, which I know isn't the world's strongest, but a UK source taking note of the group was a bit surprising to me. Will add one or two of the other sources later today or tomorrow, along with a hook into J Dilla's production credit. This AfD appears headed toward a needed re-list anyway, so I'm in no rush. Townlake (talk) 14:46, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

let it stay, jdilla R.I.P. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.126.47.106 (talk) 05:31, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget 22:58, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge & Redirect to Proof (rapper), as almost the entirety of the band's exposure has been on the basis of that connection. I'm of the mind that either keep or redirect would be appropriate here, and in the interest of consensus I don't see a redir as an inferior choice. Townlake (talk) 22:17, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.