Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/24 Church Street, Monmouth

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The result was merge to Church Street, Monmouth. Merge issues should be discussed at Talk:Church Street, Monmouth, per WP:MERGE. Ferneyhough's forge apprecenticeship and time as proprietor of the sweet shop at no. 24 don't make him notable but there is no policy reason I know of why the verifiable content shouldn't be retained in the Church Street, Monmouth article. (non-admin closure) -- Trevj (talk) 22:31, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

24 Church Street, Monmouth

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Fails to cite reason for notability. -Philippe (talk) 02:51, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or Merge: I could live with a merge, as was suggested in February here. My only concern with that would be the extent to which unsuitable sources are used. Facebook? The 1901 census? Is there much left once those are stripped out? - Sitush (talk) 03:02, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Notability of the building not established, article is mainly about one non-notable owner.07:09, 3 May 2012 (UTC) TheLongTone (talk) 07:10, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Could it be argued that the proprietor and/or his business is more notable than the building? In which case conversion to an article about him would be more appropriate? But agree notability seems marginal. Can't see we'd want every sweet-shop owner in the UK! Martinevans123 (talk) 11:38, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

On second thoughts - how many traditional sweet shops actually exist any more?! Martinevans123 (talk) 19:33, 4 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Church Street, Monmouth . He is notable to Monmouths long term inhabitants over the age of 30 and its a shame deny his memory just before Monmouthpedia is launched on May 19th. Anthony Cope (talk) 07:31, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Church Street article. It's inherent in new initiatives like MonmouthpediA (in this case, an initiative of international interest) that new editors will contribute articles on topics of debatable notability, as in this case. The emphasis should remain on encouraging new editors with articles like this, but they do need to be properly referenced, and must claim sufficient notability. As we have an article on Church Street, Monmouth, this article can easily be merged with that one, and trimmed so as not to give it undue weight. Maybe the actual process of merging - to show that WP as a whole does gain from new articles, and also has proper procedures for dealing with marginal material - should itself be incorporated within the MonmouthpediA launch on 19 May in some way - not as a big deal, but as a demonstration of how we work? Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:31, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Church Street article, as per above. (By the way, what's going to happen with 1-6 and 12-16 St Mary's Street, which I assume was originally included to match the town trail?) Martinevans123 (talk) 11:12, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete As per TheLongTone $Brookie :) { - he's in the building somewhere!} (Whisper...)$ 11:17, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Church Street, maybe some needs to be edited down. Mrjohncummings (talk) 15:51, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with a redirect (to catch any external references). This first? article has been improved but not managed to find notability on its own. Merge will retain the effort and the more important buildings in Church St will (in time) put the importance of this in context Victuallers (talk) 17:09, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 16:22, 4 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 16:22, 4 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wales-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 16:22, 4 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merge photograph and caption to Church Street, Monmouth. Page is mostly about Reginald A. Ferneyhough, who shows no hint of notability. The history of No. 24, Church Street, could well be worth recording on the internet, ideally perhaps on a Monmouth local history site, but to merit its own Wikipedia article it would need some significant coverage in reliable sources. Moonraker (talk) 23:49, 4 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Nothing notable here.--Charles (talk) 14:27, 6 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Church Street, Monmouth, which will ensure good information is kept in an article of a notable subject, whilst not discouraging editors. Zangar (talk) 16:56, 8 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.