Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2023 Nicosia Israeli embassy bombing
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 05:32, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
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The reason I'm requesting this article be deleted is:
- As far as a bombing on the embassy, the embassy wasn't bombed and the explosive went off 30 meters away and nowhere near the embassy
- According to the sources themselves (Times of Israel and AP), Cyprus Police never stated that the target was the embassy building thus implying as such is Original Research
- From my research no charges or at least no convictions have come out from this event and as such we don't actually know what the motives were nor what the outcome of this investigation was.
- Im assuming that due to the event not picking up any traction except from the day it was reported, there was likely a lot of sensationalization from media organisations due to Cyprus and Israel's relationship and the timing of it, happening less than a few weeks after October 7th.ShovelandSpade (talk) 14:58, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, Terrorism, Israel, and Cyprus. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 15:45, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. In addition to the OR issues, the bombing would require sustained analysis or study beyond news coverage. Right now, it's just a WP:News article. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 21:45, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yet very early for such. This event was on October 21, 2023. gidonb (talk) 14:50, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. In addition to the OR issues, the bombing would require sustained analysis or study beyond news coverage. Right now, it's just a WP:News article. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 21:45, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Merge (selectively) into Cyprus–Israel relations. Let's work by the points, nice touch for an intro. #1 agreed, this does not help notability. #2 the newspapers tied the bomb to the embassy so not really OR. #3 agreed, this does not help notability either. #4 We do not know that either. In conclusion, a minor event including by some of the criteria raised. No article on Hewiki. Also, seems entirely missing at Cyprus–Israel relations, so an improper SPINOUT. Best briefly mentioned at the parent. gidonb (talk) 05:20, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- Issue is nobody actually confirmed the embassy was a target and Cyprus isnt new to pyrotechnic incidents whether it be the football, political events, hooliganism in general etc. ShovelandSpade (talk) 10:38, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- Therefore shouldn't remain an article, now and in the future. The press did tie this to the embassy consistently. Also claiming it might be unrelated is OR. We follow the RS. gidonb (talk) 12:41, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- Press tied it due to proximity, not any official statement (Either from the Cypriot or Israeli governments). As most articles themselves in the titles say "near the Israeli embassy" or something along those lines, I'm addressing this with regards to merging it to Cyprus Israel relations. ShovelandSpade (talk) 13:53, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- Press says near the embassy and that is what we will write. NEVER ENGAGE IN OR, disregardful of its direction! You are warning against one direction of OR and engage in the opposite OR. Perhaps only to make a point. Both directions, however, are bad and should not add or remove information from the article space. gidonb (talk) 14:26, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- Im saying were not informed enough to make a definitive statement and definitely not enough to include in any article, the AP article clearly states "Police did not say whether the bombing some 30 meters (98 feet) from the Israeli Embassy was connected to the war in Gaza." Surely then adding it to an article related to embassy attacks would make it OR. I just think generally it lacks verifiability to even be listed anywhere. ShovelandSpade (talk) 16:29, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- Press says near the embassy and that is what we will write. NEVER ENGAGE IN OR, disregardful of its direction! You are warning against one direction of OR and engage in the opposite OR. Perhaps only to make a point. Both directions, however, are bad and should not add or remove information from the article space. gidonb (talk) 14:26, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- Press tied it due to proximity, not any official statement (Either from the Cypriot or Israeli governments). As most articles themselves in the titles say "near the Israeli embassy" or something along those lines, I'm addressing this with regards to merging it to Cyprus Israel relations. ShovelandSpade (talk) 13:53, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- Therefore shouldn't remain an article, now and in the future. The press did tie this to the embassy consistently. Also claiming it might be unrelated is OR. We follow the RS. gidonb (talk) 12:41, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Tails Wx 15:02, 27 October 2024 (UTC)- If the press agencies (RS) tie this to the embassy we should too. Second guessing the press is OR. gidonb (talk) 02:32, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Press ties it to 30m away from the embassy and gives no motive as to the attackers. ShovelandSpade (talk) 13:45, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- You keep repeating the same point under my opinion even though already responded before. Referring you to my previous answers. gidonb (talk) 13:57, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Press ties it to 30m away from the embassy and gives no motive as to the attackers. ShovelandSpade (talk) 13:45, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- If the press agencies (RS) tie this to the embassy we should too. Second guessing the press is OR. gidonb (talk) 02:32, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Per WP:NOTNEWS. Event with no deaths, injuries, or damage, and no WP:LASTING impact. मल्ल (talk) 23:30, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as per WP:NOTNEWS. No WP:EFFECT and also issues as mentioned by nom that the embassy was actually the target. LibStar (talk) 23:54, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
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