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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Sandstein 10:27, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2019 Exeter killings[edit]

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We are not a news site. These killings occurred in February this year. Three months is hardly enough time to see if something like this has had the kind of lasting impact that would make them truly notable and not just "newsworthy right this second". ♠PMC♠ (talk) 05:49, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. MrClog (talk) 06:08, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. MrClog (talk) 06:08, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. MrClog (talk) 06:08, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete no evidence of lasting notability. signed, Rosguill talk 06:12, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Three killings committed, in a short space of time, apparently by the same person, in a fairly small city which does not have a high rate of violent crime. The media coverage hasn't been very extensive due to the victims having been men & the suspect being arrested soon after the killings. Jim Michael (talk) 10:26, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
media coverage hasn't been very extensive is a strong argument for deleting the article, not keeping it. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 05:45, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rest in peace to the victims, but delete as non-notable. I fail to see how the victims being men has anything to do with the coverage, and even if it did matter that doesn't change the low level of coverage. – John M Wolfson (talk | contribs) 02:06, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The media coverage was much lower due to the victims having being men because the media & society usually doesn't care much about men, unless they're famous. Had the victims been women, the media coverage would have been much greater. You must have noticed that murders, missing person cases etc. typically receive far more media coverage if the subjects are female; far less if they're male. If this case is regarded as non-notable because the media coverage wasn't extensive enough, and the reason for that was that the victims were male, that's saying that the killings lack notability due to the victims having been men. Jim Michael (talk) 11:14, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough on that account, but be that as it may notability is based (in large part) on media coverage, which may not be the fairest. It's rather unfortunate that these murders might not have received as much coverage as they could have due to the victims' sex, but that's ultimately life and it is not Wikipedia's job to modify our notability guidelines to right great wrongs in the world. It's been more than a week (the guideline proposed by WP:NOTANTINEWS) since the murders and still nothing has surfaced, so this article should still be deleted. – John M Wolfson (talk | contribs) 16:32, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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