Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2017 Sukma attack

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) J947^{( c ) (m)} 04:48, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

2017 Sukma attack

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Lackluster information, can easily be mentioned in Timeline of the Naxalite-Maoist insurgency and goes against WP:NOTNEWS. The Ninja5 Empire (Talk) 03:19, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

• Delete WP:NOTNEWS as per the nomination. This incident has been already out of media attention, a mention on main article is a good idea. Capitals00 (talk) 03:38, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark (talk) 05:40, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

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Comment 26 jawans dead, worst attack in seven years in a major insurgency and not notable? Sounds like a joke to me. Just compare with, say, Harrods bombings or Deal barracks bombing. 84.73.134.206 (talk) 07:39, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

• Delete If this is highly relevant to the insurgency then it can be merged with the insurgency's article. Dysklyver 08:21, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Comment The issue here is whether this event is notable or not. If something comparable had happened in the U.S. or in the UK, it would certainly be regarded as notable (it's certainly far more notable than the events I provided above as examples). The fact that we are having this discussion is a symptom of pervasive WP double standards. 84.73.134.206 (talk) 11:27, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

• Keep
  1. Worst naxal attack in years
  2. Reaction to the attack-Sukma attack: Rajnath Singh, CMs of 10 Naxal-hit states to discuss ways to tackle left-wing extremism; 10-point guide. Rajnath Singh is India's Home Minister and CMs mean Chief Minister.
  3. Tamil Nadu government today announced a solatium of Rs 20 lakh each to families of four slain CRPF personnel hailing from the state.
  4. After Sukma attack, slain Congress leader’s son wants revival of Salwa Judum. Chavindra Karma, the son of Congress leader Mahendra Karma who had played a key role in raising the militia some 10 years ago before being brutally killed by the Maoists in 2013, is taking the lead in attempting to revive the vigilante group.
  5. Vivek Oberoi gifts 25 Flats To Families of Sukma Martyrs in Thane
  6. Sukma is a wake up call
  7. Prime Minister- PM Modi on Sukma attack: Sacrifice of CRPF jawans will not go in vain. Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Monday called the Naxal attack on CRPF jawans in Chhattisgarh a “cowardly and deplorable” act. He said the sacrifices of the martyrs would not go in vain.
  8. Chhattisgarh Chief Minister Raman Singh today outlined 'Mission Sukma', which suggests use of air power, targeting naxal leadership, continuous development works among others, to eradicate the left-wing extremism from the worst affected district of the state.
  9. Akshay Kumar - Actor Akshay Kumar's appeal: Show your solidarity with the Sukma martyrs
  10. Maoist attack in Sukma is proof the CRPF has not learnt the lessons of the past
  11. Shiv Sena - Shiv Sena in its Saamna editorial blatantly attacked Prime Minister Modi over his comment post-Sukma Naxal attack and asserted that by making mere statements to avenge the death of the CRPF personnel would not solve the purpose.
  12. Naxal attack in Chhattisgarh's Sukma: How 300 Maoists attacked 99-member CRPF troop
  13. Sukma attack: IAS officers to adopt 25 CRPF martyrs' families
  14. Gautam Gambhir- Gautam Gambhir to bear education expenses of slain CRPF men’s children

international coverage

• 1. BBC
  2. New York Times
  3. The Guardian
  4. CNN
  5. Fox News Marvellous Spider-Man 02:52, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

*Delete - Body count has never been a very effective means to measure anything. Why are 26 Jawans -- with absolutely zero mention of the other side -- considered to meet the notability threshold? Would 25 just not cut it or is there something special about 26 that I am not aware of? Wikipedia is not news; if anything other than an editor's threshold for body count is notable, it can be merged elsewhere.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 19:55, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

No comment anymore. Nothing particularly unique about the coverage but I don't appreciate being associated with bias or disregard hence my strike out.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 01:20, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

• Delete -- the attack is already covered in Timeline_of_the_Naxalite–Maoist_insurgency#2017, providing the same information, and a separate article is not needed. A redirect could be set up later at editorial discretion. K.e.coffman (talk) 02:53, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
• Note to closing administer- Please check the sources I have given above, before WP:GEOBIAS dominates here. Marvellous Spider-Man 02:56, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
• Speedy Keep  Obvious disregard of the policies WP:ATD and WP:PRESERVE, with no attempt to argue WP:IAR why the reliable material should be deleted.  The correct time to have intervened was when the nominator posted a merge proposal at AfD.  WP:NOTNEWS was changed long ago to WP:NOTNEWSPAPER, because of arguments like these, that the material is news.  Everyone agrees that the incident is worthy of mention in the encyclopedia.  Note that the event continues to attract media attention, [1], which is hardly surprising given the large number of deaths.  Unscintillating (talk) 22:14, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
• Keep There have been recurring naxalite attacks over the years and I do agree that not all of them are notable. However, this one was one of the worst attacks in recent times. It attracted a lot more attention compared to other naxalite attacks. A national level cricketer (Gautam Gambhir) donated prize money for the families of the victims. The attack has also been described as the "deadliest of this year". The various news reports compiled by Marvellous Spider-Man is enough to expand this article.--DreamLinker (talk) 00:48, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
• Keep (update) -- it appears that an expanded article could be developed, based on available sources. Hopefully, it would happen sometime, otherwise, the article can simply be redirected to Timeline_of_the_Naxalite–Maoist_insurgency#2017, where almost the same information already appears. K.e.coffman (talk) 02:38, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
• Keep - clearly notable based on presented sources. Article should be expanded.Icewhiz (talk) 06:44, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
• Strong Keep Clear WP:GEOBIAS at work here. This was the deadliest attack from Maoist terrorists in years which attracted major coverage in India and internationally. AusLondonder (talk) 13:58, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
• Keep per above. —MBlaze Lightning ^T 10:42, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
• Keep per above.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 00:05, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

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