Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2014–15 A-League results

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The result was delete. Stifle (talk) 10:32, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2014–15 A-League results[edit]

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Nominated after discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football#A league results and earlier AfD for 2014–15 Premier League results at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2014-15 Premier League Results. The information is not notable enough for its own article and the info can be found on the individual season article for each team. Wikipedia is not a collection of stats. QED237 (talk) 13:23, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages because it is exactly the same but for previous season, if one should go then both should go:

Forgot to sign QED237 (talk) 13:29, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. QED237 (talk) 13:48, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete both - not a repository of statistics. As the nom points out, "the info can be found on the individual season article for each team". C 679 14:33, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
FWIW, almost all Australian sports leagues (not just related to association football; check out AFL and NBL season articles) have a stats dump of results either on a separate list article, or on the main season article. –H T D 14:40, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both - NOTSTATS. Anything pertinent should be covered within the season articles. Giant Snowman 18:34, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both - Per above and other AFD's. Kante4 (talk) 21:20, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both - I am also the same with the above 2 and that was a silly thing by me to create the 2013-14 A-League results Rugby Sevens are coming 23:02, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both – There is already a results table in the main 2014–15 A-League article. And as pointed out above, information about fixtures and results can be found for each club. Arbero (talk) 00:26, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both - I was responsible for removing the results from the main 2014–15 A-League article, at the time I expressed my preference in the talk page for keeping the fixtures on the relevant club season pages. Rjbsmith (talk) 08:44, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep both - The season articles are quite simply redundant and hardly ever updated. The results page allows all of the results in one single round to be viewed in one place rather than forcing someone to look through 10 seperate articles. A results table is highly confusing and gives no indication of the round in which each game was played. Walsh11111 (talk) 11:15, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Grahame (talk) 23:46, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - I know this sounds dumb, but could we possibly keep this page active until the end of the AFC Asian Cup? It seems as though a lot of the usual editors seem to have been inactive during this time. The reason I ask for this page to stay active for a little longer is that this page is often kept more up-to-date than each team's season articles, so we may be deleting information that isn't included in the team season summary articles at the moment. - J man708 (talk) 19:36, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Walsh11111 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Silent Billy (talk • contribs)
I think previous seasons had the results included in the article - that should probably be repeated here. So I'd advocate that rather than deleting the article, it might be better just to redirect it to the main season one, so that if/when someone merges the content to the main article, the history is kept in good order? Daniel (talk) 02:17, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Daniel: I believe (but not 100% sure) that it has been decided in Wikipedia:WikiProject Football not to list matches in league season articles, we have a results-section for all results and that is enough. The detailed matches should be at the individual club articles so we dont duplicate info everywhere. This results article might have been a way to get around having the results on the article so someone opened a new article instead. The Football-project MOS at Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/League season does not list a section with the matches. If they get reinserted at the article again a new discussion will probably open up. QED237 (talk) 12:11, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the clarification, appreciate it. Why are the results in the same format as this still in the first 8 seasons of the A-League, may I ask? Daniel (talk) 12:29, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Good question, maybe no one had the time and/or cared enough to go back in history and remove it. I tried quckly to find the discussion but could not find it so I might also remember wrong and it might be okay to insert on the article again, but I have a strong feeling this has been discussed. QED237 (talk) 12:36, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No dramas, thanks again for the info (my sporadic activity leads me to needing to lean on people to clue me in about discussions like these!). I'll be honest, I'll probably be bold and add these results back into the articles if it's closed as redirect (which would be my preference and save me undeleting the history to do it), and then if it gets removed per a Wikiproject discussion with the other 8 seasons, then that'll be that. Daniel (talk) 12:44, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete both as this information can be found elsewhere. Steel1943 (talk) 21:42, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both - WP:NOTSTATS covers it. --Tgeairn (talk) 23:05, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Wait for awhile before deciding - as J man708 states above, the usual editors potentially inactive on this, and need the oppotunity to contribute to the debate. Matilda Maniac (talk) 00:07, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think pinging them might be a good idea. @Chuq, Hack, 2nyte, TheSelectFew, Ciaran106, and Datasmack: Get over your Asian Cup hangovers and come give your thoughts. :P - J man708 (talk) 00:16, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - What if we were to add prose to the article before every round?--2nyte (talk) 00:36, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, fixture lists are generally not included in English football season pages due to copyright issues. There really isn't that issue here. I don't see why the results, in a more concise and accessible form couldn't be readded to the season article. I would suggest a tabular form such as that used at 2014–15 Manchester United F.C. season. Hack (talk) 02:06, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both as a clear WP:NOTSTAT violation. I don't see a problem with having the information in the season article(s), as suggested above, and I feel like that could be the best outcome here. Tavix | Talk 06:28, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Merge back into 2014–15 A-League article, or Keep. Really, the best place for information like this is Wikidata, but there is a bit of a learning curve to contribute to that project. There are only 30-odd rounds with 5 matches per round so the volume of content is nothing like the English leagues. I support adding prose before each round with notable events from each round as well. -- Chuq (talk) 11:08, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both - Info can be found on the teams' pages. Consensus on a similar page for the Premier League led to deletion, so this article, on a league with far less stature than the PL, should be deleted. Aerospeed (Talk) 00:12, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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