Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2010 FIFA World Cup qualification (CAF)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was NO CONSENSUS TO DELETE. Herostratus 10:52, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

2010 FIFA World Cup qualification (CAF)

That is not such point to create this page while there is no reliable source to tell about the list of team, again this consider crystal ball. Aleen f1 09:44, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages because the same reason as above:

This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related deletions. ChrisTheDude 10:48, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Unencyclopedic sports-guide cruft. JMalky 10:50, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, there is no point in having these now. Punkmorten 11:14, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, ~~still 3 years away, maybe needed in 3 years, but now now.~~ Ok, the qualifying starts alot sooner. Maybe merge? redirect? Jackrm 11:35, 6 June 2007 (UTC) (Talk — Contributions)[reply]

Actually, when it says "2010 qualification" it means the qualification rounds for the 2010 event, which start next year I believe. The qualification isn't three years away. Still too early for any concrete info, though.... ChrisTheDude 11:43, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep Qualification for the 2010 FIFA World Cup starts August 2007 in some regions, and early 2008 for the others, so I dont see the point in deleting these right now given they'll be back for good in less than six months time. Article does little harm where it is, needs fleshing out & referencing though. Qwghlm 12:19, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Sadly (as I nominated this for deletion) I agree with this. The preliminary qualifying round draws for a number of confederations are likely sooner rather than later (OFC on 12 June is the first - the others were actually scheduled for May but will probably occur in June too) and therefore information will need to be placed somewhere. Eventually these articles will be too big to merge (so that seems pointless). It doesn't help that the person who recreated the article appears to be a moron (sorry POV) but there seems no point in deleting. But some changes will be required. --Jlsa 11:46, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User has been warned for making personal attacks. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 12:05, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete an empty article would explain it better. Consider also a redirect to 2010 FIFA World Cup qualification. --Angelo 13:48, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - article holds no useful information yet, and won't until the time of the draw for the qualification groups. WATP ^(talk) • _(contribs) 20:37, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. There is a considerable amount of information already available about these qualifying tournaments that should be added to these pages (e.g., here). Deleting them would not be a good move, since they would need to be recreated pretty soon anyway - qualification for the 2010 World cup starts in only two months time. This is clearly a case of cleanup, not delete. Grutness...wha? 01:32, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete unless and until there's any real information about the teams entering qualification. As it stands now, this is just a list of countries in the regions linked to their national teams - some of which (Djibouti is a classic example and I'm sure there are others) haven't even entered the qualification tournaments for recent World Cups. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 07:32, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - even if deleted now, it would have to be restored not so long from now when the schedules are available. The article is useful where it is now, as it shows the teams who have entered. And I found the article simply by typing in the title. It told me what I wanted to know. Deleting would be just plain silly, compared to the retention of many, many articles about detailed aspects of various fantasy worlds that Wikipedia has! Nfitz 13:59, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I don't like citing standards but you might want to look at WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. On anther note, nobody has mentioned the possibility of merging this information with another article. Might that be an option? JMalky 14:05, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - Actually I wasn't trying to say other crap exists. I was trying to say that crap exists, so why worry about the non-crap! But that aside - yes I can see an argument to merge; except that we all know that within a few weeks these articles will be necessary. So while I don't think I'd have bothered to create them at this stage, I don't see any point going to all the trouble and energy of deleting them. Now if someone creates an article for the 2014 qualifiers, then I can see deletion. Nfitz 15:29, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    - You're very, very right about there being a lot of crap around. But one man's crap is another man's... not crap. It's actually with that in mind that I change my vote to Merge with 2010 FIFA World Cup. JMalky 15:50, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      - As a quick point, there's nothing I can find source-wise which says that any of the countries involved have actually entered anything yet. Most of them will, I'm sure, but none of them appear to have done so just at the moment. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 23:01, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        FIFA have released the list of entries, or at least the fact that all members apart from Bhutan, Philippines, Brunei Darussalam and Laos have entered - see here - fchd 15:56, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        I'm genuinely surprised, then. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 23:33, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Although I suppose this is not technically crystal ball material, there is no actual concrete information yet about the qualification groups, etc. - and so the article is completely pointless. Wait until there's something to be written about. Robotforaday 15:37, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep It is pretty small in detail but perhaps it can be expanded? --Candlewicke Consortiums Limited 15:53, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep just needs to be expanded. Manic Hispanic 00:08, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Unpublished facts WP:OR. Item 8 of Reasons for deletion.--ClaudioMB 03:04, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not convinced that information from FIFA's own website counts as "unpublished facts". "Facts from the horse's mouth", perhaps. Grutness...wha? 05:09, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is no source reference in the article. If the information was already published, please add a link into the article. What I know is that almost sure all members of a confederation will compete in its own qualification, but that is not guaranteed. A member could be sacked by its confederation or FIFA. Wikipedia is not a WP:NOT#CRYSTALBALL.--ClaudioMB 06:00, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Even if deletead,the article may need to be re-written again.This still carrys some info about the qualifacation.

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.