Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2004 Salt Lake County Council election

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. It doesn't appear to be a strong consensus, but no one is actually arguing to delete. With no input on the relist, I don't think another will change the consensus. Star Mississippi 03:12, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2004 Salt Lake County Council election[edit]

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Municipal election, routine event with routine local coverage. WP is not Ballotpedia and is not a database of all elections. MB 00:39, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics and Utah. MB 00:39, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: MB, why nominate this for deletion and not also, say, 2012 San Diego elections? Iseult^Δxparlez moi 01:37, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Because I was reviewing the WP:New Pages Feed as a Reviewer and found this one. I am not looking at old articles, just the 14,000 new unreviewed articles. MB 02:55, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm just not sure how to apply WP:EVENTCRIT here; it's not lasting per se, but it's one of two instances in which Democrats have gained seats in the last two decades on this body, and I wouldn't really categorize elections of the governing body of the largest county in a state as routine, given that examples in the guidelines include press conferences and sports matches. There're also all the other elections pages for county and municipal boundaries on here. At the very least, I don't think a delete is clear; maybe merge at the very least. Iseult^Δxparlez moi 05:31, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into what article? Kevin McE (talk) 15:03, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Eventually this should not be a stand alone article, but all the council elections should be covered succinctly somewhere. Deletion is not the way to get there. SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:30, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep for now. If you think these are a violation of what Wikipedia is not, perhaps we need a discussion or RFC regarding all the articles in all the subcategories of Category:Local elections in the United States by state or territory, Category:English local elections by year, and any other similar categories applicable to other countries.. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 20:42, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure while I'm really not a fan of stats only articles or articles about routine events, I wonder about systemic bias about levels of government here. This council covers about twice the population of Montenegro, yet I can't imagine anyone arguing that Montenegrin national elections are routine events. (In the US at least) local governments have considerable powers and are actually competitive, whereas rigged elections in countries such as Azerbaijan or Rwanda could be argued to be more routine since the victor is determined ahead of time, yet we still have articles on these elections. (t · c) buidhe 21:39, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:17, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.