Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1990 AFC U-16 Championship qualification
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The result was merge to 1990 AFC U-16 Championship. (non-admin closure) ASTIG😎 (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 05:00, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
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This article does not credibly assert notability as a WP:SPORTSEVENT; it's a U-16 qualifier series. As a WP:EVENT, it similarly appears to fail to have generated WP:SUSTAINED coverage and a WP:LASTING impact. Therefore, I propose that this article be redirected to 1990 AFC U-16 Championshipdeleted (updated 06:15, 20 November 2021 (UTC)). — Mikehawk10 (talk) 04:28, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete fails WP:GNG, and we don't need an article on qualifying for an U-16 competition. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:48, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom --dashiellx (talk) 13:05, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. GiantSnowman 19:52, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - this appears to be part of a series, including the poorly sourced 1988 AFC U-16 Championship qualification, the somewhat better sourced 1985 AFC U-16 Championship qualification and the well sourced 2020 AFC U-16 Championship qualification. It will be interesting to see how the consensus here may apply to some of its counterparts Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 20:20, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
- Merge with 1990 AFC U-16 Championship per source. Sources are not as per the criteria. Behind the moors (talk) 05:41, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - Starting from 2008 edition, the qualifications of the AFC U-16 Championship are well-documented, with more details for recent tournaments. Why is 2020 AFC U-16 Championship qualification notable, while the 1990 edition is not? If this were true, then at which edition did the qualification start to become notable? They are the same tournament, and if the 1990 edition (or older) were to be deleted, then all qualifications of this tournament should be deleted as well. In my opinion, each edition of the AFC U-16 Championship is notable. We should document the entire tournament, and the qualification is an inseparable part of it. (Just like there is an article 2021–22 FA Cup qualifying rounds.) I am the author of this article. I planned to complete the qualifications of continental youth tournaments, but unfortunately lack the necessary info for some. Sofeshue (talk) 06:00, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
- To the above, I'd respond that just because more modern versions of this event are well-documented doesn't mean that older versions are as well-documented or carry the same historical weight. If you'd propose an alternative to deletion (such as a redirect to a not-yet-existing list article of AFC U-16 Championship qualifications) that would preserve the usability of some of the content, then I would like to see the argument be made. But, there's no basis in the guidelines that you're describing that would actually suggest that this article be kept in its own right, unless we were simply to presume the tournament so significant that it would have to be notable. I see no reason to do that a priori, though you're welcome to start a discussion on the talk page of WP:NSOCCER if you'd like to see what the community would think about expanding the guideline in this manner. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 06:07, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
- Comment Would we consider merging it with 1990 AFC U-16 Championship, rather than simply deleting it? It is poorly-sourced, but I did do some research and editting work. If we keep it somewhere, maybe someone someday could provide more detailed information. Sofeshue (talk) 06:48, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
- To the above, I'd respond that just because more modern versions of this event are well-documented doesn't mean that older versions are as well-documented or carry the same historical weight. If you'd propose an alternative to deletion (such as a redirect to a not-yet-existing list article of AFC U-16 Championship qualifications) that would preserve the usability of some of the content, then I would like to see the argument be made. But, there's no basis in the guidelines that you're describing that would actually suggest that this article be kept in its own right, unless we were simply to presume the tournament so significant that it would have to be notable. I see no reason to do that a priori, though you're welcome to start a discussion on the talk page of WP:NSOCCER if you'd like to see what the community would think about expanding the guideline in this manner. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 06:07, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Paul Vaurie (talk) 23:03, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
- Merge to 1990 AFC U-16 Championship as WP:ATD per Sofeshue. Jumpytoo Talk 19:10, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
- Merge to 1990 AFC U-16 Championship. Fails WP:SPORTSEVENT per nom. SBKSPP (talk) 06:05, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
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