Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Åcon

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The result was KEEP. postdlf (talk) 12:42, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Åcon

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Non-notable convention. There is nothing in the article that establishes why this convention is important or what makes it stands out from all the others. Wikipedia is not a Directory. «l| Promethean ™|l» (talk) 10:49, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Keep as nominator is mass-nominating a long list of science fiction conventions with the same cookie-cutter rationale, not grounded in facts or policy, without regard to content or sourcing (plus List of science fiction conventions), apparently as a result of this discussion. Notability is not a competition to "stand out from all the others". - Dravecky (talk) 11:07, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually you will find I am chery picking the ones which fail to indicate why they are notable events, not just nominating them all. The category is full of articles designed to promote thier various conventions and im merely using the shot example to demonstrate that ive gone through everything and found nothing. I also wish to point out you'll be using the same inclusionist shitter arguement that you normally do. «l| Promethean ™|l» (talk) 11:16, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My same what now? You nominated 13 articles for deletion in 19 minutes so while I'll assume in good faith that you thoroughly investigated each article, searched for sources, and worked to improve the article, as per WP:BEFORE, at less than 2 minutes per article nominated I do have to question how thorough any research might have been. It appears you're making a WP:POINT. - Dravecky (talk) 11:32, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions. —Dravecky (talk) 13:45, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - the sourcing is not that weak, if you admit that we permit articles with non-English-language sources. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:04, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: small con receiving only local (and fairly superficial) coverage. Hrafn^Talk_Stalk^(P) 16:55, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - has indep sources x 2. Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:15, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WP:GEOSCOPE would appear to apply for these sources: "An event affecting a local area and reported only by the media within the immediate region may not necessarily be notable." The only "indep sources" cited are local to the Åland Islands (population 28,000). Hrafn^Talk_Stalk^(P) 09:17, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As the event draws from two countries, plus others from across Europe, it does not only affect 'a local area' except by a strained definition of local. - Dravecky (talk) 09:37, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is an event held in Åland and reported on only in the Åland press. There appears to be no evidence supporting your grandiloquent claims of pan-European significance. Hrafn^Talk_Stalk^(P) 10:38, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is however not a local event, and this is stated in the sources. (Understandably, the sources are not immediately accessible to everybody as many of them are in Swedish). The target group for the convention is people from mainland Finland and Sweden, rather than local people, and it is not locally arranged either; indeed, this source interviews the only person from Åland who attended that year's Åcon. --bonadea contributions talk 11:33, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep While not a particularly large convention, there is notability as there are sources reporting on it, including both major newspapers on Åland. Not a local happening, as participants are mainly mainland Finnish and Swedish people, with a few Norwegians and occasionally other European participants (excluding the guests of honour, who have tended to come from the UK - but inviting a foreign guest doesn't confer notability, so that's not an argument in either direction). --bonadea contributions talk 11:33, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Gets some news mention which has been found thus far, and has had notable people attending it. Dream Focus 14:38, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- reminder - notable attendees is not sufficient; notability is not contagious. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:57, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - A convention is notable if it brings people famous in that industry over to it. They wouldn't waste time showing up at a show that wasn't notable. Dream Focus 15:16, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:24, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Keep Unscintillating (talk) 00:28, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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