Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/"Shady" Jeff Philips

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The result was redirect to Hollywood Undead. — Joseph Fox 10:06, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Shady" Jeff Philips

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This was originally a redirect to Hollywood Undead. User:GeisterXfahrer started an article, and I reverted to the redirect. The he recreated and extensively edited the article.

There is no sufficient independent coverage in reliable sources to establish notability. The subject is a former member of the band.

I am not opposed to redirect, but there have been edits by other editors since I originally reverted to the redirect, so I do not feel comfortable doing that again, and a there is nothing to merger. So delete or delete and redirect to Hollywood Undead. Cerejota (talk) 08:02, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and redirect to Hollywood Undead. Not notable independent of the band. Per WP:BAND: "members of notable bands are redirected to the band's article, " - SummerPhD (talk) 19:42, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 19:59, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"not given individual articles, unless they have demonstrated individual notability for activity independent of the band."

the subject has demonstrated individual notability with his business that has been featured on CNN, discovery channel , new york times etc.etc

here are sources for this other then just being in a band

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/28/fashion/sundaystyles/28MYSPACE.html?_r=2&ei=5070&en=793a09ad476b126b&ex=1126584000&th=&emc=th&adxnnlx=1126490924-QPQjQmBsj2rCX%20pjFmKj8Q&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/apr/18/local/me-biofuel18

http://gawker.com/5447004/the-genesis-of-tila-the-alcohol+intolerant-straight+edger-who-would-be-myspaces-queen

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/28/fashion/sundaystyles/28MYSPACE.html?_r=2&ei=5070&en=793a09ad476b126b&ex=1126584000&th=&emc=th&adxnnlx=1126490924-QPQjQmBsj2rCX%20pjFmKj8Q&pagewante

d=all&oref=slogin&oref=slogin — Preceding unsigned comment added by L.A. bIO CARS (talk • contribs) 20:56, 21 August 2011 — L.A. bIO CARS (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

- Comment - Youtube is of no help in establishing notability. The NYTimes article quotes Philips briefly (one sentence) in terms of using social media to promote the band (therefore not independent of the band). The LATimes article quotes Philips briefly (one sentence) about biofuels conversions (L.A. bIO CARS seems to have a COI here) -- a trivial mention. The gawker link has him discussing dating the "famewhoring" (their word, not mine) Tila Tequila -- not a huge step toward notability, IMO. The final NYTimes is a duplicate of the first. We can source that he exists, previously was in the band and once "casually dated" Tequila. Still nowhere near notable. - SummerPhD (talk) 21:30, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

how about this ( discovery channel website ) http://planetgreen.discovery.com/feature/instrumental/diy-biofuels-jeff-phillips.html

or this 5 minute interview from CNN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-Z8X_r_l_M

global shift (huffington post) http://www.globalshift.org/2010/03/22/jeff-phillips-from-music-to-bio-fuels-pioneer/

http://www.luxecoliving.com/lifestyle/biofuel-to-massesalternative-fuel/

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2010/07/prweb4225654.htm

Delete then redirect to the band name as per SummerPhD. Subject is not independently notable. (Further to Summer's comments, something called "prweb" is obviously promotional and does not help establish notability.) LadyofShalott 09:17, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.