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Loxton

Looks like Rebecca won't be replying to the Loxton thing. Sehwag should aim for 500s against Bangladesh YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 04:51, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

I'll try and get there. Already read the article before you ce/expanded. Guess Gambhir needed a rest. Tendulkar for some more red ink? Aaroncrick (talk) 04:57, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Probably, more red ink. Emailed SACA again. No change of plans. The WI series, they're having a one-day rest before games, so maybe they'll be lazy as well. There's a flight from Sydney to Adelaide every 90 minutes as well, and heaps of seats, usually, even with the extra cost of late tickets.... I could go to training for the Southern Stars matches I guess, probably get a few more votes on those photos as well, lol. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 05:23, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Lol, just maybe. A few fringe players might have a net or something? Aaroncrick (talk) 05:32, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

True, I emailed them again in case there was a change of plans, in 2008, Karthik came early with Robin Singh, wonder if any of the Pakistanis will bother. They won't let the public in to view practice on match morning, but because of the building works there is no fence on the outer side where the nets are just temporarily adjutting the back road. I might have a look there tomorrow morning maybe, wonder if they'll rope off the nets or only the inside half where the building site is. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 05:40, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Dodgy, but I found the official AFL stats site. Might find some stuff if you're lucky. Very hard to find and doesn't look great.

• 1942
• 1943
• 1944
• 1945
• 1946

Aaroncrick (talk) 06:17, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Good enough. AFL is RS. Pity we don't have a book to tell us if Loxton was dropped or got injured or went on army service when he didn't play YellowMonkey (bananabucket!) 06:53, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

You can't even find that stats link from the AFL page, silly. I don't know much about the history of AFL apart from Essendon. Not as many history books on footy as there is cricket :( Jim Main is probably the only recognised author. Aaroncrick (talk) 07:07, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

"Loxton has developed fluid on the knee, and may be out for two weeks." in The Argus issue of Wednesday 8 July 1942 page 8 accessed via http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home

I'm sure a visit to a library, or the National Library newspapers website as above would fill many of the gaps re: Loxton's football career up to end of 1945 at moment. You could also try the Google newspaper archive for The Age (1946 onwards for Loxton research) via: http://news.google.com.au/archivesearch/advanced_search?ned=au&hl=en

RossRSmith (talk) 07:49, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

The North Korean generals of WikiPolitics

If it is a coup, it's more like awarding oneself hundreds of meaningless medals, like those North Korean generals

Some say a poet says the thing that's in your heart, but says it much better than you ever could. Thanks for the poetry (and all the other stuff...I had never heard of "depth" ratings). Guettarda (talk) 04:59, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Nets

The monkey could have posed as security? I'm sure the SACA folks would have been very complimentary if you told them you were taking pictures for wikipedia .... not! Aaroncrick (talk) 05:48, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Miller next FAC? :) Aaroncrick (talk) 07:47, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Maybe, Meckiff is ce'd on text editor as well. First Test 1948, and a few of the other biogs in 48 are there too. 2nd Test and Lox have to pass first though. Bangladesh shredding the Indian attack on Republic Day. took their minds off the job maybe. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 07:54, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Not a lot in the crowd but they are very loud. Got to the Loxton style section without finding anything wrong, lol. Aaroncrick (talk) 09:16, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Harbhajan bowling wide crap outside off-stump, with a packed off-side. Poor cricket, against BAN, lol! Aaroncrick (talk) 09:41, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Yep, see Template:Ref AFL Encyc. Aaroncrick (talk) 02:58, 27 January 2010 (UTC

I notice you've already started. Did you get it from teh library? Aaroncrick (talk) 03:05, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Yeah the 2003 version YellowMonkey (bananabucket!) 03:09, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

FFS, stuffed up my supports in your FAC — knew I'd done something wrong! Confused myself with too many FAC windows open :) Aaroncrick (talk) 03:18, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Australia doing their best to loose. The third umpire had a Harper moment. Run-out given not out and Sri Lanka added another 15 runs. Ian Smith started to wrap the innings. Aaroncrick (talk) 03:25, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Close finish YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 04:43, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nagaruban Arumugam 2‎ back again, lol YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 04:44, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Noted, got an email. Aaroncrick (talk) 05:49, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Wonder if the others will notice? See Jake King. rubbish, I thought he was best known for trying to bash the Pies. Historical AFL players almost done YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 06:14, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

AFL arts are nearly all rubbish and are full of supporter based POV, BLN. If someone wanted to, they use the AFL encyclopedia book to add inline refs to every AFL article and just use random page numbers and they would probably get away with it as no one would check. It's like when a sentence in a GAN/FAC is unsourced, I'm sure some editors just wack in a page number despite no mention of the fact in the source. Unless the reviewer has the book how are they to know? Many would be too lazy to check even if they had the book that is sourced. I'm sure it happens all the time as you'd know :( —Aaroncrick (talk) 01:08, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

I know. People do that all the time on FAR, just putting in websites that don't fully account for the content and many reviewers don't both doing a random check. Most of the guys that push all these big policies aren't actually pro-active at all, they are often people with a short attention span or get bored easily, and tend to be reliant on simple yes/no type things that bots can do, or a token ref existing or whatever. A few years ago there were quite a few guys who passed RFA with all their edits being vandal reverts, but all they did was verify the bot and press and button, not finding the vandalism themselves, so unless it was an obscenity they knew nothing. And when they were doing deletions of blocks they would just say "NPA" or "G10" etc and couldn't explain anything. Those guys are tricked easily and don't really care about anything apart from meaningless slogans unless people nettle their egos, so any smart POV-pusher knows to just be polite to them. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 01:16, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

And a lot of new IPs have now become policy wonks at AfD, putting to shame many RfA candidates! Next thing I can see coming is BLPs should only have online refs, after we have IPs adding {{cite book}} offline references.–SpacemanSpiff 02:36, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, then we'll have to delist all these BLP FAs and GAs because they're only using sensationalist newspapers and other masala sources, instead of proper historians. I can't see any improvement in raw content coming out of this, you can't ignore the basics and play politics all day and expected real results. What's the bet that Kohli gets into the Test team as the guy after Vijay? Wonder if he can save the day against West Zone lol. W 759 odd (Nayar 250+, Powar 108 odd) and NZ 3/36. WZ should probably win the whole thing then. If south don't recover, I can't see central challenging West in the final. I wouldn't be surprised if there were three out and they went to Vijay, Kohli and Kaif. They might not want 3 guys with a total of 3 Tests. Although Dhoni might not want Kohli in there if a Delhi cabal really exists. Interesting times, the nominal top two countries have been in awful form and politics recently. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 02:53, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

I think Munaf and Irfan will trouble him, so he's unlikely to cross 60 and will get out after losing a couple of partners. I haven't seen him score against any quality bowling (not that Munaf and Irfan are, but they're likely to bowl better than the kind of stuff he was fed at Bangladesh). I wonder if Badrinath will ever do a Hussey, poor chap, hardly any chances. More than Delhi cabal I think it's a Punjabi cabal with Yuvi and Bhajji. Sehwag tends to be more straightforward. One reason, none of the Indians (with the exception of Dravid) would ever be able to play in an Australian team is this politicking. I was really surprised with SA in such a bad shape though, never expected that. –SpacemanSpiff 07:02, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Looks like I was right (again), he ended up at 56, God alone knows why Jaffer didn't enforce a follow on and go for a win instead of a draw + first-innings lead. On the other one, looks like South has a chance, hopefully they'll come through, and we could have a final with SRT/Zaheer and Dravid/Vijay. –SpacemanSpiff 16:31, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Well they picked Badri and fair enough, but the selection for the tour match against RSA is really silly given that is two days and informal and coincides with the 5-day Duleep match. They should've pulled players from the three knocked-out zones to play against RSA instead of pulling players from West and most likely South. So looks like a final between a depleted W/S and a bunch of fringe N/C/E player eg Kohli, Raina, RP Singh, Tiwary, NV Ojha/Uday Kaul, Sangwan sitting around twiddling their thumbs. Although it seems the BCCI did somehow get RSA to only have a two-day warmup before the Tests. Yes, yes politics, and true, Yuvi and Bhaji get coddled too much, espeically from the Ganguly era when some people said he wanted Yuvraj and Bhaji to usurp Laxman and Kumble so they couldn't become captain. Also someone said that DK got dropped to cut down teh Delhi group lol [1] speaking of which Gangu is at GAN and you should take a look. Very uncomprehensive for me YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 01:05, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Didn't realize Dravid's injury was serious enough for him to miss the RSA Tests. Badri gets to play against RSA while Kohli gets a go at Bangladesh! So MV comes in at one drop and Badri at no 5 I guess. Not sure why Saha gets a go ahead of DK; DK has an ok record (just three Tests) against RSA, or perhaps Srikkanth didn't want to take the chance that Badri wouldn't make his debut! I always thought that Dhoni liked Parthiv and would've fought for him instead. I'll look at Ganguly, for someone like that, the content is always going to be wanting until maybe about 15 years after he stops doing anything! –SpacemanSpiff 01:35, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Parthiv has never played since Dhoni came in except in SL when Dhoni went on a break. Gangu is missing the detail of the Chappell thing, lots of series, and is very pro-Gangu. Seems like a lot of parochial Bengali pundits were being quotes. Do you think Mughalnz shoud be blocked for pov-pushing?? YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 02:23, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

True, but I'd have thought either DK or Parthiv would've been preferred as a backup batsman to the untested Saha. Mughalnz I think is just doing things in good faith, although misinterpreting sources etc. He has discussions with RP regularly and listens to him. He started a little rough by just adding stuff, but has since then started to listen to other opinions and has corrected himself a few times too (twice with me). He checks stuff with RP too (sometimes before adding, sometimes after being reverted). –SpacemanSpiff 02:35, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Ok no need for action then. I wonder why nobody ever mentions the Punjab keeper Uday Kaul averages 48-51 in FC and List A, although his strike rate looks low and has only ever hit 2 sixes, he is only 22. He was in the Kings XI but they never let him play even though the other specialist batsmen like Sunny Sohal and this other guy whose name escapes me averaged about 10-15. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 02:44, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

South through, I want West to lose if not for anything else, for not enforcing a follow-on. Can't understand why Saha was not picked for the tour game, it would've at least given him some practice and let Parthiv play the finals. Dumb selection process. –SpacemanSpiff 17:44, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Was going through Pathan's stats to overhaul the GA. Last Ranji 26 wickets at 16.03 and scored 166 runs at 33.20 in four Ranji Trophy matches. This season, 397 runs at 49.62 and 22 wickets at 18.54. Hadn't realsed he was still productive in FC despite leaking 7+ RPO in ODIs in the pasy year or so. Portly Piyush Pathan turning into a specialist batsman. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 23:21, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

DK and Pathan had a good day. What a waste pulling out half the team for the practice match against SA. This looks like it's going to be a draw and depend on the first innings lead. –SpacemanSpiff 12:06, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Got the GA/FA upgrades done. Yes, it's silly for a two day match instead of five days, while N/C/S are sitting around. Pathan was bowling about 120 according to CI. lol YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 23:21, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Early life of Ricky Ponting

Would it have a shot at FAC with a few tweaks?

• Is the image needed?
• What does: "Better to put your References in last name first order in the individual references, and then alphabetize by last name, since you use the last name in the notes," mean? —Aaroncrick (talk) 10:03, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Images are nevere needed but on the other hand a person's face doesn't change that much from 20 to 35 except wrinkles, the jaw, shape of hte head etc doesn't change much. His hair was light brown when he was young though. I think put Richardson, Nick in the main stuff, and hte lcation of the book as well. Also, how are those two books? The second one is a pro-Ponting ghosted autobiog? A bit crufty perhaps? I don't know who Richo is but I wonder if it might be a softy book, eg, I saw a Symonds book in a shop with inane pictograms and random things about fishing stuck in the middle and idol-worship about trivia about his big hitting. I think you can pad it up more by going to Cricket Archive and mining teh oracle to get his list of matches, as the two books are rather big on chatting, and to diverisfy/broaden the article. With his international career, you can avoid crufty biogs by looking at newspapers, CI and general histories of the Australian team but not here YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 01:05, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your suggestions :) —Aaroncrick (talk) 03:59, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Afridi was a bit hungry? And he thinks all teams use ball tampering, despite no cameras picking it up, lol ... —Aaroncrick (talk) 00:47, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

well, the lolly saliva tampering. I'd better check the news tonight. Also, hmm, they changed the rules to one FAC at a time :( YellowMonkey (bananabucket!) 00:53, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

And they intruder that tackled a Pakistani player that slips my memory. That's a bugger for you, so it may only be one a month? —Aaroncrick (talk) 00:59, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Dang Thai Son

Hi, since you're an admin here, can you take a look at the article Dang Thai Son to see why it was deleted for copyvio, because the last time I read it, there wasn't any sign of copyvio, maybe just a version of that article violated, but then why should delete the whole article. I left a message for the admin who deleted it but he's taking a wikibreak so I don't know when we will have the answer from him. Thank you. Grenouille vert (talk) 02:03, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Sure YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 23:22, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Done. Nobody cheked to see if there was a clean version before YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 00:06, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! Grenouille vert (talk) 02:03, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Qiuck demotes in FAR

Excuse me, Yellowmonkey, but wouldn't it be better to just demote Captain Marvel (DC Comics)? I mean, nobody has really been working on the article to improve it and even the user who nominated the article to its current status wants it demoted. GamerPro64 (talk) 00:02, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Well, there isn't such a policy like that to do that, in cas someone turns up, and while the author may want to bin it, another may want to step in. You can go ahead and nominate another bad article if you want, FAR is hardly packed YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 00:06, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I have tons of articles in mind for FAR. GamerPro64 (talk) 00:37, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean by "encourage other comics/videogames/cartoons etc people that you know to get involved as well"? Do you mean encourage peoplr to make more FARs or to work on improving article that are nominated for FAR? GamerPro64 (talk) 16:29, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Both ideally, although if nobody fixes the article that doesn't mean that it should be kept YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 23:22, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Cyclone Clare

Hey YM. Could you look through this and make the necessary adjustments to make it adhere to Australian English rules? Thanks! –Juliancolton | ^Talk 04:45, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Done. Is this going anywhere? YellowMonkey (bananabucket!) 04:53, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Nangparbat

Hi again YM. Would you mind taking a look at this account: Moon LightXZ (talk · contribs)? Elockid ^(Talk·_Contribs) 03:27, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Got'im YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 00:11, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Re:Le Van Duyet

Thank for your compliment. But I only partially deserved because you are also the one who improved this article a lot.--AM ^(talk) 13:51, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Well, we have to make a choice as to whether do use diacritics everywhere or not at all. Did you end up going through Choi Byung Wook to get all teh info out because I haven't yet. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 01:01, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I tried to use Tran Trong Kim's book (Việt Nam Sử Lược) but translating something like that is out of my hand so I decided to rely on Choi Byung Wook's book. About diacritics, I think that it's not so important because most English speakers don't attention to diacritics so that the non-diacritic words and diacritic words are same.--AM ^(talk) 01:17, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

I didn't normally think that translating from a source was more difficult that working and thinking directly in a second language. I browesed through a TTK book, not sure if it was VNSL, but it wasn't very long for a complete history of VN. Le Thanh Khoi's book in French is quite detailed if you have access to it, which I don't YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 01:35, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

The problems of vocabularies and grammars always prevented me from translating properly. I'm currently taking some courses to improve my translation skills, I hope I could be able to get over these problems soon.

Normally, the VNSL has two volumes and it take me two day to read them all in the first time. The recent editons in Vietnam are merged from two volumes and they are very long. You could use this http://www.iet.ntnu.no/~duong/vn/vnsl/index.html, this is the completed electronic version of VNSL. About Khoi's book, I could access it but unfortunately my French skill is mostly zero :P.--AM ^(talk) 02:05, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Luckily, English and French and can be similar and that helps when I stopped studying French 8 years ago YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 07:11, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

re: Swimming at the 1980 Summer Olympics – Men's 4 x 100 metre medley relay

Thanks for the tips. Since I am not particularly familiar with the field, I honestly had no idea where else to get extra information for the article. I will dig more stuff from the previous championship and see what I can find. Nergaal (talk) 16:14, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Do you think this is sufficient? Nergaal (talk) 17:17, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

I had planned to dig up more details of the 1980 race in 2008, and got sidetracjed . In 1976, US did a 3:42 and in 1980, the others did 3:45; Also if I can find the results somewhere, in 1980, at the US Championships, I'm sure they did a time trial to prove that their quartet could swim faster than the non-boycott nations, and they were successful but I have to find that. If we are lucky we might be able to track down the individual times of the FRG and CAN swimmers and see what their paper times would be but it is not as essential as they would have been no match for the US. Also I got the results of the individual 100m races at Moscow and added the four legs together for all teh countries (except VN and Angola as they were clearly no hope) to work out which countries should have done well in theory, and I think that GDR, France, Holland and Hungary were also faster than Australia on paper, but I can't remember and don't know where my sheet is. GDR's freestyler won a indiv gold I think, and some of the others also had a few fourht/fifth guys that Australia didn't except for Evans. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 01:05, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

The pdf ref I got has all the results in all the probes at the Olympics. Nergaal (talk) 01:50, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, so does sportsreference YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 02:23, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Is sportsreference actually considered reliable? Nergaal (talk) 06:50, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Awadewit and Ealdgyth agreed in FAC for one of the swimmers, as the people are historians are some of them are heads of some historical society for the Olympics YellowMonkey (bananabucket!) 06:55, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ngo Dinh Nhu

On February 1, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ngo Dinh Nhu, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 06:00, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

DYK

Is a lot slower than I thought. —Aaroncrick (talk) 23:58, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

And "Later career" sounds dodgy in Karthik don't you think? Also, you may have noticed that the main ref is not working. —Aaroncrick (talk) 00:03, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

I know, I ahve to tweak it. Computer automatically updated software yesterday and shut off the the text editor without asking, killing about 5 hours of expansions. Yes, DYK is slow and they should probably raise the bar with the big supply all the time. Also they never check the hooks much and there are always redundant or roundabout wording that wastes space YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 00:19, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh crap, I wouldn't bother doing it again :( The hook doesn't even have to be interesting anymore does it? Everything's virtually accepted in Good Faith. —Aaroncrick (talk) 00:29, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Well I already researched them, although I had to redo the sums as I was just adding the stats up from the list of games. I should've saved more often, or used Word, which has autorecover, which saved the Meckiff CE and some other stuff. The hook hasn't been interesting since 2007 when some regulars started swearing when told off that their hook didn't tell anything a bit odd, rare, or counterintuitive. It's pointless now to stop them as another admin will just pick it. In 2006, there were only about 4 admins doing it regularly, before May 2006, only two, who were both strict. In 2006, DYK went updated for the whole weekend once when me and PDH (talk · contribs) aka "Petaholmes" "peta" "nixie" were away and everyone else ignored the appeals on ANI, and often there were 15+ hour waits, but there were often only 12-18 submissions a day. Pity she isnt around anymore for the sake of the ACT/fauna FAs YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 00:35, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

You and Moondyne used to do a fair bit of work I think. See how Walters hasn't smoked for 11 months? Surprised to see how shoddy his article was. —Aaroncrick (talk) 00:54, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Teh telemarketing fluff on the cricket wasn't enough to persuade me to watch ACA. The articles on the Simpson->Lawry->WSC->Border era players is not good. I wish we had more folks, but we don't and Mattinbgn is more or less retired YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 01:20, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

I see that you've done a fair bit of work to the prominent players, though. The rest are basicially just glorified stubs. —Aaroncrick (talk) 01:28, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Palm Beach Currumbin High School

Palm Beach Currumbin High School

Hi there. I am just wondering my my change to the Palm Beach Currumbin High School page was undone? As a current student there, i was able to update it effectively, but for some reason this change was revoked?

Tommackay (talk) 07:29, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

The content seems very promotional in nature YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 23:21, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thank you for unblocking me after I was rather amusingly accused of being Blackjack! Had a quick look over Sam Loxton, but I'm afraid I don't have much on him. I'll have another look shortly, but none of the books I've got mention him except Wisden, and you've already got that in there. Most of the English sources don't mention many of the lower profile Australian players, unless they're involved in a big incident: I imagine it's the same from the other side, too. I will check the article again, though, just in case.--Sarastro1 (talk) 21:37, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh well, I doubt that Loxton would have been prominent as he did almost nothing in 50-51 which is why he was dropped YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 00:11, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Naming convention

Hi, what's your opinion about the naming convention for historical figures in history of Vietnam, with or without accents? I've changed some of them from pure English style (without accents) to "more Vietnamese" (with accents), for example, Khai Dinh is redirected to Khải Định and so on, but I'm stuck in Category:Mandarins of the Nguyen Dynasty, since you've done a great work there with even featured article like Phan Dinh Phung (which, in my opinion, should be Phan Đình Phùng), it'd better be you who decide the naming convention for those articles. So if you mind, give me your opinion, and if you don't, then we'll leave them just like that. Regards. Grenouille vert (talk) 04:31, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't bother me, as long as the redirects are there. I just choose to not use diacritics except when bolding the subject at the start of the subject because it's convenient and easier to keep consistent that way, ie have the name of the person the same over and over instead of cutting and pasting the diacritics. But I don't mind at all if people move it or use diacritics in the main body if they use it everywhere in the article YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 04:58, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

So green light for me :). Thanks a lot for your quick answer! Grenouille vert (talk) 05:39, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Phan Dinh Phung, Truong Dinh, Nguyen Trung Truc etc, it's fine YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 05:41, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I leave out Phan Dinh Phung, Truong Dinh, Nguyen Trung Truc since they are written with total no-accent style, others are done. By the way, Trung Truc without accents seems a little bit silly (in Vietnamese, trùng trục = naked/plump/a type of oyster :) ). Grenouille vert (talk) 06:10, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh ok, I never pay any attention to seafood and even in English don't know the names of and can't recognise different fish. Still, what's wrong the word "mandarin"? changing Ton That Dinh (mandarin) to "Nguyen dynasty official" is a bit cumbersome, and normally in that case "politician" "official" or "bureaucrat" is enough unless there were other notable Ton That Dinhs YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 06:15, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

My bad, sorry! I changed back to Tôn Thất Đính (mandarin). The bit of "trung truc" is just a joke, since 99% Vietnamese can't not mistake the name "Nguyen Trung Truc" for whatever "trung truc" means. Grenouille vert (talk) 06:25, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Wondering why you switched the cats from mandarins to officials YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 06:28, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Nothing special, just for coherence for a bunch of Category:Lý Dynasty officials, Category:Trần Dynasty officials, Category:Lê Dynasty officials that I created, I discussed the matter a little bit with Amore Mio but if you don't agree with those Category:Nguyễn Dynasty officials, I'll change them back. Grenouille vert (talk) 06:37, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Ganguly

Sure you're no mug? lol ;) Anyway, do you use wikiED? It's not working for me and it's really annoying ... —Aaroncrick (talk) 09:10, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

wikiEd's a bit slow now. I was using it a while ago, and it was acting up. Sorry, I couldn't get to it earlier, didn't expect you to get a reviewer so fast! —SpacemanSpiff 09:13, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I can't get mine to work at all; turned it off and on but still not working. Hell, doesn't matter, you've got around to it :) —Aaroncrick (talk) 09:22, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Got wikiED working, was really giving me the shits and stopped me from editing. And new laptop has a mind of its own! —Aaroncrick (talk) 07:30, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi YellowMonkey. Thanks for taking the time to review the ref formatting etc. for the Takalik Abaj FA nom (and for striking your objection!) Best regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 10:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)