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Pyotr Slovtsov

Please, help me to correct the article of P. Slovtsov. Сергей Соковнин (talk) 12:01, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi, Сергей Соковнин. Many thanks for the article. I've done a bit of very basic work on it and have put notices up for copy-editing and restructuring to get help from other editors. I also asked for help with names and spellings at WikiProject Russia. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 08:40, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, very much for helping! I shall cjrrecting this text, but it will demaind some time. Thank you,dear Voceditenore!77.108.110.200 (talk) 15:15, 26 April 2010 (UTC)Сергей Соковнин (talk) 15:45, 26 April 2010 (UTC) Thank you very much for your correcting my mistakes.Сергей Соковнин (talk) 15:10, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Please help, dear Friend

Hi, Voceditenore, I'm starting with the 2010 students, whom I hope to be able to bring into the Wikipedia fold. You had included a marker for Educational Assignments on one of the students' pages last year, but I am not able to find out how to add it. Hoping you're well. Ijmusic (talk) 18:21, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi there! I've added information about the tag and how to use it to the Tools section of User talk:Futureclass. I've also updated and expanded some of the other sections I wrote on that page. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:31, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks! This will help immensely, as will your other excellent instructions: the less they have to fend for themselves, the more successful their efforts. If I may, I'll be back in touch.Ijmusic (talk) 04:53, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the help!

--Cmagha (talk) 22:44, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Above comment in reply to this Voceditenore (talk) 12:13, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

La Petite Bande

Thank you for creating a beautiful article! Saves my night! They appear in two articles (one new, one old) for DYK on Sunday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:28, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

I added a link to a review on Bach cantatas, please change the ref to your style. I wonder about the cello suites. Orchestra perhaps? And I wonder what the British think about Handel an Italian or German composer - both true in a way, of course. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:30, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations to the approval of DYK! Nice pic, but I would almost prefer it in the Lully article and/or see a reference to La Petite Bande in the description of it. - I linked the 24 violons a few times (just linked, they were all there, - the one who tagged the article "orphan" could have seen that as well ...). I added the Creation recording to that article - remembering the great experience of singing the work in choir with period instruments in 2002. (btw there are many more singers mentioned than needed for the Karajan recording - as if it was for two different ones.) - I still wonder about the cello suites. It doesn't take a group to perform pieces for cello solo, I would think. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:43, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Julia Hamari

(Nice caption Petite Bande!) I started Julia Hamari and wonder about a cat for an Hungarian teaching at a German Hochschule (sounds familiar). Finally a Bach singer who sang opera! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:50, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Norma

La Petite Bande looked excellent on the Main page! - Did you know that Cecilia Bartoli sang her debut as Norma? Even more sensational: ... that the part was originally written for mezzo and Adalgisa for soprano, - that's what I read in reviews and an interview with her. la stampa - Yesterday I started the vocal ensemble ensemble amarcord, - is that also Opera because all singers are Opera? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:45, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

La Tosca

No problem. I'm not familiar with the guidelines for plays, so I'll just steer clear. On a side note though, I do prefer the roles table for visual reasons. Not only does it look more professional, but it also is easier to read.4meter4 (talk) 14:35, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

As you can see, now that I have the final structure of the article worked out, I've re-added the cast table with some corrections and additions. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 07:56, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

An intersting article for La Tosca

I'm sure you already have good refs, but this may be of some use to you: http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/579719.html

All the best.4meter4 (talk) 22:57, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I did already have it in the article, but as an inline cite, not additionally in the sources, because it's bassed on Nicassio's book. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:04, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

I also saw, while plunging through google books last night, mention of a satire named "Tra-la-la Tosca" in the early 1890s, I was looking for images and so did not pay much attention. May be helpful to you for the adaptations section.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:22, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

And this review in Punch.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:53, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks so much for these. "Tra-la-la Tosca" sounds hilarious (and not very PC in parts). But then I love puerile humour. ;-) As you can see from La Tosca now, the chap apparently had a minor industry sending up Sardou's plays. The Punch will be useful too. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:04, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Only now did I notice La Tosca and like it a lot, admiring how you tell the story as if it was simple. As for the hook: not knowing that Gil Blas is a periodical - read as a person - I stumbled over the "it", - but it made me return to Gil Blas, perhaps that is a good effect. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:43, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for adjusting, how about doing it in the article also? In the caricature: I would render the original first and translate in brackets, rather than the other way round, "Ideas of others" ("Idées des autres"). In "As the play neared its premiere, Bernhardt discovered to her fury that Sardou had sold the rights for the first American production of the play to the actress Fanny Davenport and threatened to walk out." it is not clear that she threatened, not he, other than from the context. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:29, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Ensemble amarcord

Please let me know if an a cappella ensemble like ensemble amarcord should be classified "opera", which would make sense as they all sing. But the Chanticleer have Biography (why?) and classical music which I copied. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:22, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi Gerda. I guess you're talking about what banner to put on the talk page? Project banners aren't categorization as such. They're really to indicate a project which would take an active interest in the article and look after it. While on the whole the OP (rather than the Classical Music Project) looks after individual bios of classical singers, we don't look after ensembles of them unless a very significant chunk of their repertoire is opera, e.g. Les Arts Florissants. The Bio banner doesn't belong on Chantecleer. I'm going to remove it. Hope that helps. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 09:54, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

That helps, thank you! They did a bit of opera but not more. Much more though than some of the individual singers, smile, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:10, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

"Nessun Dorma" and Andrea Bocelli

I don't mind your edit and understand your point of view, but shouldn't it be stated that many heads of states were present during both performances. Maybe a statement without mentioning any specific names would be appropriate. I won't do the edit myself, I'll just leave it up to you to do what's appropriate.--Ahmad123987 (talk) 19:56, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but I don't think it's appropriate. The article is about the aria itself and needs to concentrate on that. In fact, it's already very borderline to even mention these performances. In terms of the aria itself, it's actually very trivial information. Although the occasions have their own articles, they are not particularly notable in the context of the aria. It would have been different, for example, if "Nessun Dorma" was the theme song of the Shanghai Expo. Bocelli has never sung the role of Calaf stage, or even recorded the complete opera. The aria is not closely identitfied with him in the way it has been with Pavarotti. "Nessun Dorma" is, and has been, sung in concerts by many notable tenors on many notable occasions. There's no need for the article to start listing them. And there is certainly no need to give any more weight in the article to Bocelli's performances of it than there already is. Each of the events you listed has its own article. A reader who is interested can read those articles. Voceditenore (talk) 07:53, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

I agree, the only thing was that other artists were listed in the article, so it wouldn't have been right not to mention Bocelli as well. And since Pavarotti's death it seams the song is being sang by Bocelli on more and more occasions. He is being asked to sing the song in important ceremonies these days, weither it be the Expo 2010, watched by over a billion people or the opening of he center in Astana which was also broadcasted live on all channels in Kasakstan. Anyways I have no problem with the way this article is at this moment. Have a nice day.--Ahmad123987 (talk) 18:30, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK review

Thanks for your DYK review of William Downie Stewart (1842–1898) - much appreciated. In order to deal with the suggested renaming, can you please point me in the right direction? Please reply on the article's talk page. Schwede66 15:19, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Tosca images

I've worked through the various discussions and recommendations on images, and summarised what I think is the current position here. Can you help with the third item? At present, the link on the De Marchi image page goes only to an enlarged version of image; the link on the Ternina image goes to a Met page that does not hold the image. Can you suggest better links? The article is nearing its completion now, and we are anxious to resolve the few remaining issues as soon as we can. Thanks, Brianboulton (talk) 15:38, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Julius Harrison

I apoloogise for getting back (six monts later) to your comment on Talk:Julius Harrison, I must have missed it for some reason. I'm not really very active on music pages except those that concern Malvern, and I created the Harrison article on the fly while working on schools in Worcestershire and Elgar related stuff. Your suggestion for finding photos are of course perfectly valid, but I am tied up with deadlines on GA reviews and a couple of long translations that I need to get finished before someone complains. I don't of course claim any ownership to the Harrison page, and certainly won't be offended by any constructive edits and/or additions, so if you have time, do feel free to be bold and chase after a permission for the photo you mention. If not, no worry; it is, I think, only a minor music article. Regards, --Kudpung (talk) 04:38, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

File:Berton as Scarpia - Punch cartoon 1888.jpg

Did you forget to add a license tag for this image when uploading.?

Wikipedia takes copyrights seriously, so images need to have an appropriate license tag

You may wish to read Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags/All and Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags#For_image_creators which will assist you :) Sfan00 IMG (talk) 20:29, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Whoops! Brain fried. License now added. Thanks for letting me know. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 21:22, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

TFD

Let me know if there is anything you need me to do. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 14:49, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Replied here Voceditenore (talk) 10:15, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Template:Mysliveček operas

I recently updated this template to the collapsable format, but I can not figure out how to make the image size smaller. Do you know how? Thanks for any help in advance.4meter4 (talk) 04:51, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi there. There isn't a way to do this, but I got round it by substituting a portrait that's less oblong. I also changed the format. The standard format for these templates is bullet points rather than using <br>. By the way, you've been doing a great job with bannering/checking the new articles. Thanks so much! Best, Voceditenore (talk) 05:37, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. That is much better! I will continue to keep an eye on new articles while you are away. On another subject, do you think these two articles, Demofoonte (Mysliveček) (1769) and Demofoonte (Mysliveček) (1775) should be merged? I have no strong opinion either way.4meter4 (talk) 14:35, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't have an strong opinion either, but I'd leave 'em for now. Grove lists them as two separate works. It sounds as if the music is completely different in each one, even if the libretto is the same. I added a link within each article to the other version. Voceditenore (talk) 15:05, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

English writer Norman Suckling

I know this is not an opera related topic, but I've been trying to dig up some biographical information on biographer Norman Suckling which we currently do not have an article on. We do have an article on Norman Suckling the New Zealand rower. Unfortunately, I've had no luck, although I've found plenty of sources talking about his works on Faure, Moliere, the Enlightenment, etc. You seem to have a knack at these things, so I thought I might enlist your help. I am leaving for an extended weekend vacation later today, but will be back Wednesday next week. I may pop in briefly over the weekend.4meter4 (talk) 16:17, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Actually it is. He apparently wrote a chamber opera called Avalon. See 2. below. Anyhow, Here are the bits I managed to find ....

1. "Norman Charles Suckling was born at Forest Gate on 24th October 1904. He was educated at Bancroft's School and at Queen's College, Oxford where he graduated in History." (from Eighteenth Century French Studies: Literature and the Arts by Norman Suckling, Elfrieda Teresa Dubois, Elizabeth Ratcliff, Philip John Yarrow). It's the first book listed here

2. There's a bit more bio here

3. "In drafts for an unpublished paper written in the late 1960s, David Munrow stated that an exchange of letters in the Musical Times between Jerome Roche, Denis Stevens and Norman Suckling was the first really good argument in print about vibrato which I have come across." See page 8 here.

4. He apparently called Schubert "the most shallow Teuton who ever covered up a painful poverty of musical ideas by providing fictitious opportunities to be soulful." Musical Times

Must go pack my suitcase now. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:36, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you so much. I just knocked off a stub quickly at Norman Charles Suckling. Feel free to make any changes/additions. Enjoy your vacation! 4meter4 (talk) 02:17, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Eastman School of Music Composition Department

I have proposed this article for deletion.--Karljoos (talk) 15:38, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Kerman

I would like to thank you for improving the Joseph Kerman article, which previously was barely a stub. Alas, it is still a paltry one in comparison to the Lady Gaga article. Best. Dr. Dan (talk) 17:28, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome. :-) I got back from vacation today and saw the brouhaha at Talk:Tosca and was astounded at the pathetic article for Kerman, who within the admittedly 'narrow' sphere of musicology is really quite famous. His Opera as Drama was one of the first opera books I ever bought — immensely thought-provoking, even if I don't agree with it all. Frankly, I don't think his "shabby little shocker" quote is trivia at all. It has become an icon for the criticisms made of Tosca and has been an integral part of discussions of the opera in writing for general audiences (including opera program notes), and also appears in scholarly works such as Mosco Carner's stuff — if only to refute it. Voceditenore (talk) 23:15, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Voceditenore, I totally agree with what you write above. I have seen references to Kerman's quote quite often in scholarly works. And I have to say I was unpleasantly surprised when I saw my colleague Dan arguing so aggressively on Talk:Tosca to remove the quote.  Dr. Loosmark  23:36, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Voce, for your reply. I would like to explore this a little further with you and plan to do so. But first, I'm interested in hearing Loosmark explain his interest and his knowledge about Opera, Puccini, Tosca, Kerman, and his post here (I hope you don't mind that he does so on your talk page). I'm sorry that I made him "unpleasantly surprised". You see, Loosmark has a penchant to appear in the most unusual and untimely manner whenever I make a post on WP (some have suggested that there's a schoolboy crush involved, others have suggested that he's stalking me. I don't think that's the case, but I'd be delighted to get his spin on the different aforementioned subjects. Oh, and Voce have you ever had any contact with Loosmark previously on your talk page or elsewhere regarding any of the musically related subjects that I mentioned? Thanks. Dr. Dan (talk) 01:56, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

I have never previously interacted with either of you and I would appreciate it if you and Dr. Loosmark would continue this discussion on your own talk pages please. As far as I can see neither of you have made any significant contributions to opera articles in well over a year (if ever), let alone those dealing with Puccini's works. Voceditenore (talk) 02:31, 8 September 2010 (UTC) Updated by Voceditenore (talk) 01:58, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Duplicate nom

Glad to see you are back. Thanks for letting me know about the error. I went ahead and fixed it. Great work on Kerman!4meter4 (talk) 14:33, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks!

Dear colleague

I was delighted to see my name finally pop up as an article in Wikipedia. I fancy that I too will be enjoying my retirement years doing what you seem to love to do: editing and fleshing out Wikipedia articles. And I thank you for looking over the post on me. There was a clean up tag on my article a few days ago. I did a crash course in learning about the formatting rules and fixed that. The original author seems to have finished the article by adding links to the various authors I have set to music. One editor erased the cleanup tag, which I'm not sure was kosher or not. Put it back in if you think it needs more editing, but as I look it over, the various editors seem to have done a thorough job.

I clicked on the "discussion" tab and found my article rated as "start-class" and reading what that meant seemed to be in line with your cleanup entry. Not sure whether it's my role or not, but I put it in for re-assessing. As I would like to link (or whatever you call it) into the Contemporary composers wiki thingee, I'm waiting until a reassessment is done.

Any comments from you as to what might be missing are appreciated. The article seems to be really well documented.

Best

Roger Bourland (talk) 18:51, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

PS: In that this is my first "talk" I assume this is a public note to you. Hoping this is the right way to do it.

• Replied here Voceditenore (talk) 16:04, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Commas

Hey Voce, have a look, again: "Did you know that, for his book Life at the Bottom: The Worldview That Makes the Underclass, Theodore Dalrymple interviewed over ten thousand people who had attempted suicide?" What the commas do is set of a parenthetic remark from the rest--and such a remark is defined as a phrase (usually an adjunct, actually) that is not necessary for identification and could be left out. What's awkward here is that the parenthetic remark is so long, but that can't really be helped in this construction. Keep the faith, Drmies (talk) 01:43, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Above was in response to this Voceditenore (talk) 00:06, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

L'Orfeo

Thanks for your offer and encouraging comments. I am pretty well supplied with the essential sources, though one article I've not been able to read beyond the tantalising intro, is this. If by any chance you can get hold of a copy, that would be great. Not essential to the article, but useful all the same. Brianboulton (talk) 10:27, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Alas, I keep meaning to see about getting access to Jstor via my husband's university, but alas haven't got round to it so far. Must put that on my to-do list, but I suspect L'Orfeo will be an FA by then. ;-) Best Voceditenore (talk) 16:29, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Appreciation

I wanted to thank you for indirectly being responsible for my getting a hold of Mosco Carner's biography of Puccini. You might remember that it happened under unusual circumstances. It's an interesting read. Sometimes good things can result from such interaction. Anyway, the primary reason that I'm writing today is to ask if you are familiar with a CD dealing with obscure works by Puccini. If I'm not mistaken there is an alternative version to the finale of Turandot that is also presented. Not the Alfano version. Are you familiar with the CD, and its exact title? Thanks. Dr. Dan (talk) 14:34, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

I have a CD called "The Unknown Puccini", but it's only art songs (sung by Plácido Domingo). Luciano Berio wrote the alternative ending. I'd suggest googling Turandot + Berio to find recordings that contain it. Voceditenore (talk) 16:36, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, although I'm not familiar with the Puccini-Domingo CD, I'll try to get a hold of it and listen to it. Did I understand you correctly that there is something in it from Berio's ending of Turandot? That part of your response wasn't clear. I know that Janet Maguire and Berio did some work on their own concerning that opera, but I'm not sure sure that there have been recordings made of their efforts. Dr. Dan (talk) 02:45, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

No, the Domingo CD has only art songs for piano and voice, no opera stuff, or even orchestral stuff—it came out in the early 90s. The Berio ending for Turandot was 'premiered' at Los Angeles Opera in 2002 and then at Salzburg later that summer. The Salzburg performance is on DVD. I don't know of any compilation CDs which include just the Berio ending on its own, but there may be one out there. Voceditenore (talk) 06:06, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you...

...for writing an article on Philip Brett. I was very sad when he died. By the way are you sure the Rothko Chapel recording was a world premiere? I have one from at least 1985 (I'd have to dig to find it though). (Oh, and also thank you for the Kerman expansion!) Antandrus (talk) 23:13, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

My pleasure! I made the article because I was astounded to find that he was a red link when I was expanding Kerman's. I'm doing the Musicologist section tomorrow. Feel free to add, edit etc. One of the sources (can't remember which one now) described both the Feldman and Harrison recordings as world premieres, but I was puzzled when I checked WorldCat, although the detail in their documentation varies. I've amended the article now to fudge the "world premiere" bit. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 23:41, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

As it turns out, what I had was a cassette recording of a live concert off the radio -- by the California EAR Unit, which was the same group that recorded Rothko Chapel on New Albion in 1991. So on second thought the 1991 may truly be the world premiere recording. Sorry for the false alarm! I used to record a lot of stuff off the radio back in the day, especially new music. (Somewhere I've got a pirate recording of Kathleen Battle's master's recital ... now that was something special -- this young, abundant, utterly gorgeous voice...) Antandrus (talk) 00:19, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Carl Weinrich

• Congratulations! I liked to read about him, but could not believe that there is no article on Bruckner's Mass in E minor yet. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:19, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

L'Orfeo

This is now at peer review. If you can spare time to look at it and perhaps comment, I would be very grateful. Brianboulton (talk) 10:51, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi, have commented there on one section. Will try to do a few more over the coming days, but have to stick to one section per day in long articles or I start glazing over. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 20:27, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination for Fyodor Petrovich Komissarzhevsky

Hello, your nomination of Fyodor Petrovich Komissarzhevsky at DYK was reviewed and comments provided. --NortyNort (Holla) 12:31, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Karl Formes

Thanks for your kindly messages and action over the Formes article. A pity we can't use the picture linked in my first footnote, which is a bit less stodgy-looking, but I suppose the copyright doesn't permit. I am honoured that this effort has rocketed direct to B class, quite a select little place to be. Not that I worry about such things but at least I am not just talking to myself! Thanks, anyway. Vocedibassisto, Eebahgum (talk) 08:47, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Welcome

Thank you for your kind welcome. You are nice. I am solo singer from Serbia, so i hope that i can contribute in Balkan-opera related articles. All best, if you need some help regarding those subjects, ask me! :) --Tadija^speaks 18:54, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Tauberlieder?

Following an old enthusiasm, I was wondering if you knew where to find a list of the Lehár Tauberlieder. Best, Ijmusic (talk) 03:49, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Michel Bellavance

I'm currently in the middle of an intense graduate course and don't have time to do much on here right now. I thought you might be willing to rescue this article from deletion: Michel Bellavance. If you are busy too I understand.4meter4 (talk) 04:04, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

I read this and added some refs but raised a question on his discussion page, in case you find some time. "He" is rescued for the moment, but the article needs work, and I'm also busy at the moment with things more important to me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:58, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Apology

My sincere regrets for my unwarranted gender assumption; I should have learned by now that usernames are often equivocal. Anyway, as a form of penance, when Tosca is done and dusted I intend to complete the Monteverdi trilogy, by expanding L'Orfeo. Although this is probably Monteverdi's best-known opera, it is actually the one I'm least familiar with, so I have a lot of reading and listening to do. Watch out for it later in the year. Brianboulton (talk) 14:41, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

La Tosca peer review

It clearly makes no sense to keep this open in view of your forthcoming absence. If you wish I will close it now, or you can. Enjoy your trip - hope it's to somewhere good. Brianboulton (talk) 22:34, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Brian. I'd appreciate it if you would do it for me. I'm not familiar with the PR process at all, and I've been busy tying up loose ends at the Opera Project before my departure to the US tomorrow. Unfortunately, the first part of my travels is due to my mother's serious medical problems, but then we'll be at our summer house in Italy, followed by California for our son's wedding. So yes, they're mostly to places nice. Many congratulations on the Tosca FA! I've now added to the "Selected article" rotation at Portal:Opera and updated the Featured articles lists there and at the OP. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 11:16, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

I will do the closure. Thanks for all your suggestions and help with Tosca. I am taking a short break from opera before plunging into the L'Orfeo project which has been in the pipeline for some time. Brianboulton (talk) 11:34, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

If the PR remains open, I'll take a close look at it, as I've actually read the play, which few here can say. I have no immediate opera plans either, though I am not ripping up my Puccini books either.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:02, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, but Brian's closed it, and I hope it will remain so until I get back in September and can participate properly. When it re-opens, it would be great if you could review it. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 13:14, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Are you up for re-opening this peer review?4meter4 (talk) 09:30, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Not yet. I'm off to the US again soon and quite busy until I leave. Voceditenore (talk) 17:20, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Il prigionier superbo

Sorry for interfering with your editing of this article, I was unaware that you were still working on it. Hope I did not cause any editing conflicts on your side. The New Grove Dictionary of Opera, vol.3, page 1096, also gives the premiere date as 5 September 1733 (the article is credited to Dale E. Monson, same author as your source). However, the title in this Dictionary is Il prigioniero superbo. I don't speak Italian so I don't understand why that is.--Francesco Malipiero (talk) 19:06, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi there. No there were no edit conflicts and thanks so much for doing the roles table so quickly. I hate doing them.

In Italian, especially poetic or literary Italian, words ending in "l" "m", "n" or "r" (liquid consonants) + a vowel often drop the vowel. I'm going with "prigionier" as it's the one used in the Italian sources, including the Fondazione Pergolesi-Spontini. But I've made a redirect from Il prigioniero superbo. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 21:18, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

La Petite Bande again

Did you know ... that soprano Gerlinde Sämann performed with La Petite Bande Bach's cantata for the 14th Sunday after Trinity, Wer Dank opfert, der preiset mich, BWV 17? - today, thank you for the band, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:07, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

and again, smile, ... that mezzo-soprano Petra Noskaiová recorded alto parts with La Petite Bande in Bach cantatas such as Weinen, Klagen, Sorgen, Zagen, BWV 12? We sang the cantata movement today, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:44, 3 October 2010 (UTC)