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DESJARDINS Ok Vincent, lets do a deal. You are right about the lack of info. So let's you and me improve it.

Atticus York 18:41, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

DESJARDINS Subject: rv, not relevant enough to be on WP

Hello Vincent,

I disagree with your decision to erase the information about the Young Officer internship program. Desjardins is the first financial institution in the world to establish such program. I just came back from a tour in Europe where we visited 3 of France's biggest coop: Crédit Mutuel, Crédit Agricole and Banque Populaire. They were all very impressed with Desjardin's program and where inspired to do the same.

Corporate Gouvernance, and programs is what defines an organization.

Thank you!

Atticus York 17:44, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

FYI : Related to Ethical Consumerism

Just reading some of the FairTrade and other important stuff. Thanks for your contributions in this area.!!

Thought you might want to give me your perspective on this idea I posted in the Proposal section of Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29#Unique_Wiki_Labeling_on_.2AAll.2A_Consumer_Products_and_Ads

What do you think?

For The Life, Stele Ely www.WikiPPP.org www.earthe.org Greentopia 20:58, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

your comments on PG Tips/Unilever

Vincent1, you state 'The move has received mixed reviews: Rainforest Alliance certification, dubbed "Fairtrade lite" by various observers and news sources, is questioned in the industry[3] and was described in January 2005 by Oxford University professor Alex Nicholls as "an easy option for companies looking for a “flash in the pan at a cheap price”.[4]'

I can find no evidence that Unilever/PG tips'move received mixed reviews. please provide those. a 2 year old quote regarding the Rainforest Alliance cannot be seen to apply to a move that happend in May 2007. accordingly, i have removed your edits The criticism of Rainforest Alliance exist but is extensively covered at their page. Mtl1969 13:39, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

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I'm sorry I had to delist it, but the issues were too many to remain a GA. However, if you do address the issues, please contact me on my talk page when you're finished, and I'll re-review it again so you can bypass the month wait at GAN. Let me know if you have any questions and happy editing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 00:56, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

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Fair trade

I see you have done a lot of work on fair trade. Please join the conversation on the talk page to discuss recent edits.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 16:01, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

As I have said before. Please discuss on the talk page. The lead is supposed to summarize the article. See WP:LEAD If you have better references please I would be happy to see them. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:21, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Many people consider what proportion of the extra premium paid ending up with the producer important. I do not understand the argument that it is somehow not important? Would it be important if the amount was 50%? Anyway please come to the talk page and discuss it. Rather than removing referenced material. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 02:05, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

So removing referenced statements make it more POV?Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 02:09, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

It depends what kind of referenced statements - you can reference ANYTHING you want, but if you don't say who says it (and if that person isn't credible) or if you quote the person poorly, yes there is a NPOV issue. Let's discuss each of the statements I removed if you want.Vincentl (talk) 02:11, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

The references are from the BBC and the Guardian for this type of article. Both of these are sufficiently credible to site. Now the quotes drawn from fair trades website are not usually allowed as they have a WP:COI. One usually basis things are third party analysis. I however am not this much of a stickler being more of a wiki inclusionist. Please bring further discussion to the talk page. Cheers.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 02:19, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Which quotes from Fair Trade orgs are you talking about? Vincentl (talk) 02:21, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

The issue is not so much the sources (BBC and Guardian) but the way the quotes are written. These are not objective enough... you can't write "some feel" but you have to be more specific... who says that? In what context?Vincentl (talk) 02:24, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

(undent) Have made some changes. Anyway until tomorrow. Merry X-mas.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 03:15, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Fairtrade Labelling Organizations International

I would submit this for deletion. It does not say anything not covered at length in the dozen or so Fairtrade and Fair Trade pages. And this is an enormous number of pages for an organization that does not even claim to deliver more than a few million in charity.

BUT, I would suggest putting in a page for History of Fair Trade. The pages all seem to have enormously long, turgid, histories near the beginning. These are boring and it is doubtful whether anyone will read through them to get to the meat of the article. Which may well be why they are there. There is a reluctance to put in simple facts on what Fair Trade and Fairtrade actually do and do not do: instead there are thousands of words on intentions, history, etc. with no factual basis. So it would be good to replace the history sections with a simple link. Best wishesAidWorker (talk) 15:52, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

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