User talk:TouchetteRoman/Etheostomatinae

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Hi Roman, really nice job! I just have a few comments on the overall structure. Life history usually refers to how organisms allocate resources to traits relation to survival and reproduction throughout their lifetimes, so you should consider changing the header from life history to something like "ecological diversity". The ecological diversity section could describe any general habitat use and non-sexual morphological/behavioral/life history differences among species. Anything related to reproduction, like reproductive habitat use, behavior, and coloration, should be reserved for the later section on reproduction. Your plan to introduce information on reproduction chronologically is a really good idea. Looking forward to the first draft! Elioeilish (talk) 04:30, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Peer Review

This is a great article! It's outlined very well, with the information flowing from one topic to the next in a logical progression. You hit on a lot of interesting facts and efficiently summarized a ton of information into an easily understandable article.

To start, you might want to add a brief introduction statement of 1 or 2 sentences, just describing what the genus is at a very broad level. (I did not figure out that they were darters until the end of the second paragraph, but that might just be me). I'd also be mindful of run-on sentences throughout the article, which can help make your writing more concise.

Phylogeny and Diversity

I think that you can remove the in-text citation once you have cited the information with the Wiki tool.

You might want to explain or link to some of the more scientific terminology in this section, such as monophyletic, sympatric, and allopatric.

The second sentence in the second paragraph is a bit long, you could consider rephrasing it: "Factors related to spatiotemporal habitat stability and life history strategies can play into speciation and genetic differentiation of darters, such as dispersal ability and gene flow in headwater reproductive habitats impacting lineage divergence."

The first sentence of the third paragraph could be broken up to be a bit more concise: "Hybridization has been accounted for multiple times across the genus. It is more common between species with similar egg-laying behavioral mechanisms and within the same phylogenetic clade, with sperm viability being the limiting factor of hybridization."

I'm not sure if the sentence about sneaker males really fits in this section, particularly within the discussion of hybridization. It might be better down in the behavior section.

Fourth paragraph is a repeat of the first paragraph.

The fifth paragraph might fit better in combination with the second paragraph in this section, where you had first introduced and discussed speciation events.

Morphological features:

Very cool information about the coloration!

It might be helpful to link to an article about carotenoids, if it is available.

Some extra definitions or links to other articles in the last paragraph in this section would be great, particularly for genital pores, tube papillae, and pleated rosette papillae.

Sexual Selection and Male Reproductive Behavior:

You might consider breaking down this section into a few more subheadings, perhaps including different sections for female sexual selection (nuptial color preference) and male sexual selection (male aggression).

In the first paragraph, should the last sentence say that males are expending more energy into courtship reproduction than females?

How does male aggression relate to coloration and mate choice?

Is there any information about why parental care has evolved and reversed multiple times? I feel like that isn't very common, so it would be interesting to learn more about.

Final paragraph in this section has a lot of repeated information from the last paragraph in the morphological features section. Given that the focus of this section is on behavior, I would recommend combining it all into the morphological features section.

Overall, great work! This was a super informative article.

Phasmatidae (talk) 20:11, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Peer review

Hi Roman, you have done a really good job, and your article is very informative. Some suggestions I have to improve it would be: -Establish a more elaborated background of the fishes. Include characteristics such as natural habitat, distribution, size, general colors, and so on), ecological niche (predator, herbivore, etc), distribution, or natural habitat before jumping into phylogeny, and diversity. -Link sentences talking about the same topic: "Speciation events are common across species of this genus..." should go after the paragraph introducing speciation events. -Avoid awkward sentences: "A nuptial color preference has been observed..." should be 1 sentence. The part saying "while this may not apply..." should be another sentence. -Follow an order that starts giving an introduction: the paragraph about morphological features might fit better before phylogeny and diversity. That would allow the reader to link the introductory paragraph with the morphological features, and it would be possible to start with a more generic topic than phylogeny. It might be a good idea to link many scientific concepts used throughout the article such as allopatric speciation or subgenus. Overall, the article already has a good shape! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Megarhyssa6 (talk • contribs) 04:39, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Peer Review (2nd Round)

Hello! I really enjoyed reading your article! It's very informative and has a great amount of detail. One organizational suggestion I have is flipping your "Morphological Features" and "Phylogeny & Diversity" sections so the readers get an introduction to the organisms first. How do the darters absorb carotenoids? Through food or other forms? I liked the description of the darters' morphology; I feel I was able to understand parts of the organism very well. Does parental care have any benefits in the species that do exhibit this trait? Overall, I think you did a great job! It was a clear read and I learned a lot from it. SiriSngi (talk) 21:25, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

peer review - 2nd round

Hi!

In the life-history and morphology section:

The “morphological features” of this section is well-written! On suggestion I have for this section is moving the third paragraph to be the first, because it is a broader paragraph that can tie well when moving to the next part of this section.

In the “phylogeny and diversity” section, when you talk about the fusiform shape bodies, I think this sentence can go in the morphology section as it is discussing the form of the darters. You did a really good job explaining speciation and hybridization in this genus.

In the behavior section:

You did a good job explaining step-by-step how the matings occur. An important point that you made was at the end of the egg laying and reproductive behavior section that there might be parental care because this genus is large and there might be a possibility. Suggestion: explain the benefits of parental care in this genus.

Explain what nuptial color preference means. Are there specific colors that females prefer more?

I think your wiki page is really well-written! I suggest that there is a general section of this species, like when does this genus/species habitat? When do they reproduce? DGOMEZ14 (talk) 03:16, 16 April 2024 (UTC)