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Welcome!

Hello, Tondron24, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{help me}} before the question. Again, welcome!--MollyPollyRolly (talk) 05:44, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you MollyPollyRolly[edit]

Thank you for your welcoming message and insights, I'll look through and into them and if by chance I'd need your help, I wouldn't hesitate to let you know Tondron24 (talk) 05:52, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of T. Ollyvar (musician) for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article T. Ollyvar (musician) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/T. Ollyvar (musician) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

Xclusivzik (talk) 20:31, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Xclusivzik and other amazing Wikipedians, thanks for reaching out, however, I'll propose the article: T.Ollyvar (Musician) be retained and updated over-time. Thanks. Tondron24 (talk) 21:27, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Creating Autobiographies[edit]

Hello, Tondron24, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you created or edited appears to be an article about yourself. Creating an autobiography is a common mistake made by new Wikipedians—as this is an encyclopedia, we wouldn't expect to have an article about every contributor. We require individuals to meet Wikipedia's definition of a notable person to accept articles about them.

The page you created about yourself may well be deleted from the encyclopedia. If it is deleted and you wish to retrieve its contents, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page. If your contributions to an existing article about yourself are undone and you wish to add to it, please propose the changes on its talk page.

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Hello it seems like you created an autobiography see WP:AUTO. You see, the problem with autobiographies is that a default WP:COI is already present. The problem with COI’s is they make achieving a WP:NPOV very difficult. My advice would be for you to start slowly, observe other articles on mainspace, understand a few policies and guidelines before attempting to create any article straight to mainspace. Then there is WP:GNG, if you understand this is to satisfaction you would have solved more than half of all your problems, it is easy to understand too! Furthermore you need to understand Wikipedia is not WP:NOTLINKEDIN. I honestly can’t teach you all there is to article creation in one response neither can anyone, thus if you have specific questions please you can either go to the WP:TEAHOUSE and ask questions there or you can leave me a personal message. If you want multiple editors looking at something then please opt for the Teahouse. Celestina007 (talk) 21:51, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I admit to not knowing the aligned basis and probably been naive to the accepted way for presenting a figure's biographies. However, Wikipedia told me to ”get the balls" and write an article for submission and review and gave me a SandBox to freely make mistakes.

I promise you all that I'm ready to learn and be taught everything that will make me an expert like you inorder to continue protecting this community. I'm not here to break rules neither here to dictate what the community should take or reject.

I'm here with an humble heart for you to pleeeeeeease, don't delete the article of the artist I created: T. Ollyvar (musician). Scold me if you want, give me millions of tasks to solve, put me on labor to complete a 5000 pages of books but PLEASE DON'T DELETE THIS ARTICLE.

I might not be myself again nor be okay with using Wikipedia which I know with time, I might be a great contributor because I really want to be here.

Please, all this terms are coming so heavy for me, I'll suggest you all please help: 1. remove terms that aren't necessary or appropriate for wiki 2. Add terms that should be available in it. 3. Request or make more research.

Just please, do anything about this but don't hashly delete it, it's that's too much load to bear.

Punish me if you want, give me loads of tasks but please don't be harsh on this article. All the stress and hassle of the entire months will go in vain and that is mental exhausting.

If you checked my log, I made my little impacts too on some other Wikipedia pages and I'm ready for more as long as you'll always post on my talk page nicely.

Apology for the long notes but I see you all are dedicated people and will take your time to read this and as well understand. Wikipedia told me "..people like me". I'm glad I am not talking to a bot or allien. I'm talking to people like me. i am not proving to figure things all out. Please in everything i'll go through here as a ’pedian. DON'T DELETE THIS ARTICLE: T.OLLYVAR (MUSICIAN). But rather help rebuild it to considerable terms. I appreciate all the guidelines sent to me, I promise I'll go through them and you'll be proud of me soon but please don't delete my first article. I didn't do this for a pay but energy, zeal and took up the long journey which Wiki told me "it fine, keep moving". I think I've to stop here.

Please accept my request and utmost appeal.

Thank you to everyone keeping late nights and missing out fun with friends and family just to keep Wikipedia on it's stand. Your legacy will keep standing.

Thanks once more for your understanding. Tondron24 (talk) 04:25, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Advocating for Article: T. Ollyvar (musician)[edit]

I've read several articles e.g on Quora from Wiki Editors who says notability isn't limited to winning awards or being nominated for one but rather “having proofs for every contributions made” (citation) from secondary sources and article should be written in your own way and not lifting original contents word for word from their initial sources and to also keep things as neutral as possible to avoid COI (Conflict of Interest), also heard Wikipedia isn't as terrible as the way we all get scared of coming close to it and the Editors are their on terms not to be brutal to you but rather to keep things in “good faith”.

I spent sleepless nights writing the article of that artist. I've always never want to put the risk of submitting but rather building it gradually since I was given a SandBox and never thought of it to rather be nailed against me.

I'd rather not start a article for "T. Ollyvar (musician)" than having it deleted. I wouldn't wanna go through the traumatic experience has I won't bother requesting my writeups from any of the Editors. It's like throwing my luggages at me and saying goodbye. Please I wanna be a great editor too someday, assist others and to as well KEEP WIKIPEDIA SAFE FROM FALSE INFORMATIONS, VANDALISM and other vices against the community.

Please I appeal and seek favor in the sight of any of the Editors who are human like me that comes across this that, please, Help Protect "T. Ollyvar (musician)" article from being deleted from Wikipedia but it's okay to be modified instead.

I wish to be granted a listening and understanding ear. Thank you for accepting me here with love.

I'm grateful to you all. Thank you very much and please overlook my excesses. Tondron24 (talk) 06:23, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Last Message[edit]

  • To Wikipedia:

Thank you Wikipedia for being You, You don't know how best you can explain yourself to people but the best you can do is to invite them to experience you, then they'll somehow understand whichever thing they need to know.

  • Some will get hurt, bittered, angry, lose hope after alot of effort and lot and lot and lot, some will get desperate and aggressive, a few may understand and stay calm, but still in somewhat way, nobody will escape the experience that will reshape their thinking forever.
  • Anyways, Wikipedia, you have great writers, editors, guidance and tutors who keeps explaining your mind to people in the most loving and polite way, they truly play a BIG ROLE in how people view you, wiki.
  • Everything equal - I hope someday I make my lil donations to support the movement :)


........



  • I've seen responses from other editors here and I've seen RESPONSES. I'm not saying this to put anyone above the other but in the same vein challenging others to emulate what's good. (Optional tho, can't tell anyone what they choose to emulate). Someone here gave RESPONSES.


• The most captivating experience with Wikipedia was best spent with @Celestina007:, This must be born out of real maturity, past trial and error and a reformed personality. @Celestina007: is truly mature and fit for all they've been doing here. @Celestina007: knows how to switch from being professional to the language you best understand, to guide you, give you hope but still preserve the culture @Celestina007: represents as an Editor. ( I dove Hat)

• Some words are best left unsaid but @Celestina007: understands already and @Celestina007: is still never gonna judge you for that, you're human, and @Celestina007: knows, @Celestina007: sees you in 4k but will smile anyways cos @Celestina007: 'understands'.


• To the Musical Subject that brought Tondron24 here, Please dont forget him someday. He needs you truly here. I failed at helping but I met you for his sake, I need to go and face other things and I know you'll handle and sparehead what concerns Wiki and him “when the time comes”. You'll give him a soft landing yet without breaching the rules.

• I Love you @Celestina007: and I Respect you. Don't stop being you. People don't forget things just as you don't. I Love you a bunch and I want to meet you again in others around d world.


  • Bye Bye Wiki • I met @Celestina007:. A good, professional and bold editor and I leave a 5 star Behind for them.
  • I also leave great credits behind for every editor working day in day out to keep Wikipedia Moving. Everyone of you are Amazing people and I respect you all but I Iove @Celestina007: anyways and y'all can't do anything about that hahaha.

Bye Tondron24 (talk) 14:57, 14 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia: check out the Teahouse![edit]

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Hello! Tondron24, you are invited to the Teahouse, a forum on Wikipedia for new editors to ask questions about editing Wikipedia, and get support from peers and experienced editors. Please join us! Liz Read! Talk! 22:33, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There is a learning curve to working on Wikipedia and writing a new article and getting it accepted into the main space of the project is one of the hardest things you could try to do. And trying to do this as a new editor is an uphill task. If you want to return and edit Wikipedia, and there are a lot of areas where we need help besides creating articles, I advise you to make the Teahouse your second home. It's where you can get answers to your questions from editors who have been doing this for many years. It really helped me when I was a new editor because I was easily frustrated here with all of the rules and policies. Good luck! Liz Read! Talk! 22:37, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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