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April 2021

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Achievements/Awards

Hi pls note that the achievements (awards) should be only in the fighter "Championship and achievement section" but not in the event page. Cassiopeia talk 13:41, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

No problem, thanks for the correction! Seussitsu (talk) 09:46, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Please use the cite function or citation bot for your references

Hi. I noticed you have been adding a lot of bare links as references. We have features that will fill in the information for them such as author, website, date etc. You can either use the cite web function or citation bot to do the work for you. Refer to WP:UCB on how to use the citation bot.

- Imcdc Contact 12:38, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Oh sorry! Thanks for the info I'll use that moving forward. Seussitsu (talk) 08:37, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Be aware of excessive details

Hi, Just a friendly reminder to please be aware of EXCESSDETAIL and WP:NOTNEWS. per WP:NOTDIARY "Not every facet of a celebrity's life, personal details, matches played, or goals scored warrants inclusion in the biography of that person, only those for which they have notability or for which our readers are reasonably likely to have an interest." example from the Haisam Rida article: "Rida was invited to take part in a tournament shortly afterward at EBI 20: The Absolutes on October 23, 2022.[18] He withdrew from the event shortly before it took place however, and did not compete.[19]". As a rule of thumb it is best to focus on their notability and main achievements which should also be summarised in the lead section per MOS:INTRO. Let me know if you have any questions. Thank you Lewolka (talk) 11:49, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

That makes sense regarding cancelled matches or withdrawals etc. I've been following the same/similar format as you generally see on MMA fighter's pages where there's large sections for each promotion/time-period and then information on individual matches, is that not correct? Seussitsu (talk) 09:51, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

I can’t speak for MMA as I mostly work on BJJ athletes but tournaments that “have notability” are major ones such as International/Open or those with their own article. For readers to be “reasonably likely to have an interest”, if jitsmagazine reviews a tournament but it can’t be found on bjjheroes, jiujitsutimes or grapplinginsider it might not be worth adding. Hope that makes sense and again no critics intended here, you're doing an awesome job! Lewolka (talk) 11:29, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Adding to the above, (for MMA fighters or any articles), not all sourced content needs to add in the the said articles. Info needs to be relerent, important, significant enough to be included. So pls limit only to important info only that is supported by independent, reliable sources (IRS). Cassiopeia talk 01:19, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

UFC 288

Hi Seussitsu, pls note that all announced fights should be put under "Announced bouts" section and not the background section. Since you are interested in edit MMA related articles, pls take some time to observe the normal and how to edit the pages from the experience regular MMA editors (you can see them on the history log page of the articles). I will send you a list of info for you to to familiar with the topic said above. Cassiopeia talk 01:24, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

MMA related articles

Greetings. Since you have edited a number of pages of MMA related articles in Wikipedia, pls see the below info so you may understand how things work here.

1. Pls visit Wikipedia:WikiProject Mixed martial arts and read through the MMA Wikipedia guidelines.
2. When a bout is announced which stating "finalizing, in work, rumors, verbally agreed,  in the press, this means the bout is not official yet. Wait until it official before place it under the "Announced bouts" section of the event page.
3. When a bout is announced in the press, editors put the match up in the  "Announced bouts" section (inline citation is needed)
4. When UFC.com / its local web site (pls check the reference beneath the fight card table in the Wikipedia page), the editors would remove the bout in the "Announced bouts" and place it in the "fight card" section.
5. When a fighter pulls from a fight (due to injury/or by UFC/ visa issues and etc), we placed the info in the "Background section" (inline citation needed) and remove the injured fighter name and put "TBD".
6. When a injured fighter has been replaced, editor put the info in the background section (with inline citation). If the new match up has not been shown in the UFC.com fight card, then we will removed the match up from the fight card and place it back to "Announced section". If the match up already shown in the UFC.com then jut put the replacement fighter in the fight card section.
7. When the event named has been announced (such as UFC Fight Night: dos Santos vs. Tuivasa) then we place the info in the background section (with inline citation). If UFC.com has shown the event names (Fight Night events or UFC on ESPN) such as UFC Fight Night: Cowboy vs. Medeiros or UFC on ESPN: Reyes vs. Weidman, then editor would move the article and article talk page name accordingly and not before, except the flagship event such as UFC 187, UFC 242 and etc.
8. No colour box in the fighter's page infobox at event fight card page. No title eliminator in the fight card or body text in fighter page or event page. No (c) - champion on the event fight card unless the fighter is the current champion of the weight division.
9. "method" in the fight table is as per Sherdog.com as per WP:MMA guideline and please do not interpret the method yourself even if the method is incorrect as Wikipedia is all about WP:verification and not the true.

1. Info box as per Sherdog. No other nick names or else we would have many nicknames pop up every time there is a internet meme.
2. Reach as per UFC.com as Sherdog dont have the info. Pls provide inline citation.
3. Stand - need to provide inline citation. IF you can find source to support it, leave it blank
4. Style - "The style parameter should only be used in MMA fighters that have participated professionally or in international competitions in other combat sports (i.e. boxing or kickboxing) and who are notable in said sports and deserve an article for their merits in these other sports (i.e. Antônio Rogério Nogueira, Alistair Overeem). It is suggested to MMA editors that they actively remove the style parameter in infoboxes of MMA fighters that do not meet these criteria." Leave style for modern mma fighter as they have to train several combat disciplines.
5. No Flag icon on info box or fight table.
6. Info could be obtain from Sherdog on Info box - need to support by sources such as teachers, belts, notable relatives, university, occupation outside fighting career and etc.

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1. Pls read referencing to understand about referencing and how to provide inline citation.
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Cassiopeia talk 01:27, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

@Cassiopeia:

Hey,

Thanks for the information! I'll review this in full before editing any further MMA fighter's pages. Seussitsu (talk) 09:58, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

You are welcome Seussitsu. If you need any assistance pls pop to my talk page for I am here to help. Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 00:19, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

rank icons

Hello @Seussitsu, I just wanted to let you know that following this RfC it has been decided not to use rank icons in martial art infoboxes. Thank you for all your consistent great work!. Lewolka (talk) 10:45, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up! Appreciate it. Seussitsu (talk) 07:04, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Medal table

Hey. Do you have time to update the medal tables of grapplers etc. I've noticed after the 2023 World Jiu-Jitsu Championship that many medal winners haven't updated their medal tables to reflect their latest wins. If you have time, it appreciated if you can look into it.

- Imcdc Contact 12:39, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	thank you for your consistent hard work on BJJ/Grappling articles! Lewolka (talk) 12:38, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

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