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Archive 1

WikiProject Spain

(Category list is at Wikipedia:WikiProject Spain/Spain-related categories)

Hi, EspanaViva! As you can see, this user page shows what categories are currently (or were just) run. The project listing is a full list of past runs. Each of those has the bot's output from the run on individual log pages.

Now, to let you know where I am in the project. I ran a batch of 20 categories first, so I could check some performance issues and the code. When that finished, I (as of writing this) am running a second 20 categories. As you said on my talk page, we can then let the dust settle for a day or so. Let me know when it's settled enough (how do you say "dust" in spanish?), and I'll set the bot to run another 50 categories from your list.

Everything seems to be working well, so I'm happy about that! And this is a heck of a project for me to start with - 1,120 categories - my goodness! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 06:50, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh - and while the bot is running, it's outputting it's current processes to User:SatyrBot/Logs. Or you can watch it run on Special:Contributions/SatyrBot. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 06:53, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Who knew that watching a bot work could be so much fun. This is really great. I'm delighted that you get to do fine-tuning while you're chugging through this! I'll have to think of a comparable idiom/phrase in Spanish equivalent to "letting the dust settle"! EspanaViva 07:02, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and is there any way to keep a running tally of how many articles the bot has looked at/acted on? We've never actually taken a census of all the articles in these categories, and it would be useful to know about how many articles have been tagged as we go along in each stage (i.e., a subtotal for that stage), and what the running grand total is as it merrily munches along! EspanaViva 07:24, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Espana! Just after talking to you last night, I called it quits. Then the bot did - because it had been running for two hours (a time-limit the server set). So I don't think it quite finished the category "Catalan media". I'm going to update your cat list, but I want to do a couple code-tweaks before we get started on the next run. Let's do the "dust-settling" thing now and you let me know when you want me to start, okay?

One of the code tweaks I want to add is a counter to let me know a) how many pages were skipped, and b) how many pages had the tag added. It already counts how many pages are in each category, so I can determine a "running total" from that.

Let me know if you have any questions or anything! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 15:36, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Further note: When you get a chance, take a look at this comment left by another editor. Is there anything we can do about those? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 16:10, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Taking a breath . . .

Deep breath - sounds like a great idea. Let me know when it's going to be up and running again. I think about a day's interval between runs would work fine. That way any comments can be looked at in a comfortable pace.

About over-inclusions, I think that some small number of those are unavoidable. People put articles in categories that are at the margins of the topic. I think that the best we can do is try to keep these to a minimum, and then manage the (presumably few) issues as they arise. I will be very glad to respond to all future inquiries along these lines.

For example, I've already contacted User:GordyB and invited him/her to delete the tag, if he/she felt it was not a good fit for that article. Just because some small number of these tags will be in outside the strict bounds of Spain-related articles I don't think stops these bots from doing the good deed of applying the tag to the 99% that are in bounds!

Thanks again ... and oh by the way, I've been racking my brain for a Spanish phrase equivalent to "letting the dust settle," but there isn't one really. Interesting how languages work that way sometimes! EspanaViva 17:06, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

I've actually just finished the code tweaks I wanted, so the bot is ready when you are. Should I run a set tonight (8 hours from now)? Or wait until tomorrow (~20 hours from now)? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 18:00, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Would it be convenient to run it at roughly 24 hour intervals? I can't quite always translate the time codes, so I'll leave it up to you to figure out when it would be work best for you at 24 hour intervals. EspanaViva 19:17, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Sounds good to me! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 22:17, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Another Cat Question

Copied from my talk page...

I noticed your bot marked Frederick William IV of Prussia for the Spain wikiproject. I do not know what criteria you are using to make these decisions, but that struck me as a bit bizarre on first glance. Indrian 07:05, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Indrian! I'll forward that on to Wikipedia:WikiProject Spain. I'm not sure why, but Category:Knights of the Golden Fleece is in the list of categories. If it doesn't belong, though, please do take it off and I'll get them to review the category. Thanks -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 07:09, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Whatever the reason - there are an awful lot of German and Austrian rulers/nobility that you just tagged for the WikiProject Spain. Mind if I just rollback? Agathoclea 07:56, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

That category? Or individual pages? Either is probably good, since there are quite a few non-Spain-related rulers there. Or do you mean roll back the 29 other categories as well? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 08:02, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Definetly the above category seems the culprit. I have since removed it from the Spanish parent category. (it was also categorised as Portguise and Austrian). I mean rollback the abviously wrongly tagged articles. Agathoclea 08:16, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

That would be awesome - I don't know that I can get my bot to do that right now :) If it helps, there's a log of what articles the bot tagged. And I'll let the WikiProject know what's up. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 08:28, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Whatever the reason was, the articles about e.g. German or Scandinavian royalty do not belong here. Please go through your logs and remove these entries again. No Dane would include Juan Carlos of Spain under WP:Denmark just because he is a recepient of the Order of the Elephant. Valentinian ^{T / C} 08:30, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Aparently I was not the only one doing it, but between us we have rolled back or deleted the edits in that category (except the clearly Spanish ones). Any false-positives should be covered when you run other categories. Agathoclea 12:17, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Satyr - I'll offer my own apologies. Just fyi, in the history of Spain, there was quite a bit of overlap between all the royal and noble houses all across Europe, so I can see one way how the categories got linked. Having said that, I agree that the Spain tag probably could/should be removed from the articles identified. I'll extend my own apologies to these folks as well! EspanaViva 20:13, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

NP - and thanks :) And I'll keep an eye out for cats that don't look obvious for the project and will ask you about any before they run. That should help with the over-inclusion issue (at least a little bit). -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 20:32, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Bot errors

Not all bullfighting is Spanish. MikeHobday 10:25, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

My observation here is that bullfighting can easily have multiple tags (there are many articles like this). The presence of one tag is not a claim of exclusivity! This editor should feel free to add any other tag he/she feels is appropriate. EspanaViva 20:15, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I didn't copy it, but there was a specific page that was mentioned - maybe Bloodless bullfighting? In any case, you're right - tagging an article doesn't assert WP:OWN. We've been through similar concerns with WP:LGBT. But I think there are very few over-included articles in that cat. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 20:34, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

OK, I've been to Bullfighting and Bloodless bullfighting, and I see the tag was removed from the latter, with the note that "Bloodless bullfighting" is not practiced in Spain. I'm not sure if that's strictly accurate, but rather than revert now, that may be an issue that can be returned to at a future time! EspanaViva 20:47, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps the point is that the bot is set upto assume that everything to do with bullfighting must be part of the Wikiproject. That seems a dubious assumption. MikeHobday 21:23, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Mike! The bot takes a list of categories and is told to put the tag on every article in the cats - you're right. The list of categories is developed by the WikiProject, with the understanding that there will be a little bit of overkill. For instance, every article in Category:Volcanoes of Spain is a safe bet. Bullfighting, however, is probably mostly related to the WikiProject - though not necessarily every article. EspanaViva and I will try to note the cats that are not 100% so the individual articles can be reviewed. It's far easier to tag everything in a cat like bullfighting and remove the incorrect ones (~1 out of 11) than it is to manually review and tag almost all of them. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 21:55, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Category:Fictional Spaniards

This category is probably not a good idea for auto-inclusion in the Spain project. Take this article, for example, for an article that has nothing to do with Spain save in a trivial way. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 07:15, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, some are, some aren't ... I'll go through and clean it up manually. Thanks for bringing it to our attention! EspanaViva 07:33, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
- Well, that was entertaining ... cleaning the fictional Spaniards tag - who knew that Spain had generated so many fictional Marvel Comics bad guys! I zapped the tag on all of them - ¡POW! EspanaViva 07:55, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

LOL! I wouldn't have thought that, but there ya go :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 15:11, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Preparing for run 6

EspanaViva, in preparing for tonight's run, the only cat that I'm not positive about is Category:Basque politics. Is the Basque region totally within Spain? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 16:05, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

No, half is in France. MikeHobday 16:12, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Satyr, if you want to hold on that one cat until the next run, I can go through the category, and take a look before the next run. Alternatively, Mike, if you're interested, you can fine-tune the category . . . (I won't be able to do it for another 24 hours or so - darn RL!). EspanaViva 19:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

P.S. I just took a quick peek at the Basque politics category, and just based on the titles, it looks like 98% will be getting the tag and perhaps one or two will need a closer look (I expect they'll all wind up with it). I think we'll be OK on this category (Basque politics in France are very low-key by comparison to Basque politics in Spain). EspanaViva 19:49, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

All the articles in this category are fine with the exception of Iparretarrak, which deals solely with the French side of the Basque Country. I'm not sure what's going to be the easiest way to handle this one exception. The beauty of the bot is that you don't have to do a lot by hand. My suggestion is go ahead, and run the category, and I'll pull the tag off that article when you're done. Can you think of a better idea?

Separately, I haven't double-checked, but if category:Political parties in Northern Basque Country is on the list, same deal one of the articles Abertzaleen Batasuna deals solely with the French side of the Basque Country. EspanaViva 04:52, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi, EspanaViva! That cat (political parties in northern Basque country) isn't on today's list. I'll try to remember it and let you know when it is. When you see this (or maybe in a couple hours), check the Iparetarrak article? It will run in this batch. Thanks! -- SatyrBot 05:05, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Preparing for run 7

Hi, EspanaViva! In setting up for tonight's run, I'm concerned about the 8 Basque related categories and Category:Lapurdi and Category:Nafarroa Beherea. I've actually removed the latter two from the run, since the Cat pages say they're in France. Would you manually tag any articles in those two categories? And take a look at the Basque ones for tonight's run? If they look, say, 80% or more Spain related, I'd say we can go ahead and run them. But if they're less than that, just remove them from this page. And if you want, you can replace them with the next ones on the list :) Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 19:34, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

How about this as an option? I've got a RL time crunch for the next several days. Why don't I take each of the Basque-themed categories and move them to the end of the queue? That way I can look at them more carefully over the next few weeks. I've taken a peek at the next categories on the list after the Basque ones, and they all seem pretty safe. If you think that's a good idea, I'll move them to the end of the Project page list, and you can safely take the newest "top 30." Thoughts? EspanaViva 21:39, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, also, I've been looking through those "(nationality)-Spanish" cats coming up, and I think we'll wind up dropping almost all of those from the list altogether. A Romanian footballer who plays in Spain isn't really what we're interested in! I'll be taking care of those too in the next several days. EspanaViva 21:50, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Sounds good - I'll move the possible problems to the end of the list (and put a tag to separate them). The (nationality)-Spanish cats aren't for probably a week, and if you don't have time to review (or remove) them before I get there, I'll treat them the same way. And I'll forge ahead with the more fully Spanish cats.

(Stupid RL!) :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 23:29, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

7, 8, 9 . . .

Satyr - Could you take a look at the numbering on the queue page (where you've moved cats from the top to the bottom of the page after they've been run). I started adding numbers to the run . . . but your latest addition jumps from #6 to #8! I don't think that any cats have been left off the "processed" list at the bottom, but I think (guess) that the numbering is out of synch somehow. Would you mind taking a look at the lists, and double-check it against your memory, and see where we're off? Thanks! EspanaViva 18:07, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Run #6 for the bot was a different project. But the numbers were still off, so I fixed that. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 18:59, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Still looking good

I see that you've bumped up to 40 cats per run, which makes sense to me. No complaints this time. I did go through and manually change a dozen or so that I saw going through the list - but it's looking pretty good! EspanaViva 16:51, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Sweet! At this point, I'm still limiting to 40 cats, mostly due to the script timing out after three hours. I'm in the middle (towards the end?) of rewriting portions of the bot so that it will be able to stop and pick up where it left off. When I get that working, I'll up the cats to 50 (or more, if you wish). -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 18:18, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey, partner, we're getting this to a science. No complaints from anyone for the last several runs (how long is that going to last, I wonder?!). What's the easiest way to figure out what your "bot run number" is? That way when I move stuff around on the queue page, I can link that day's run to a bot run number that you'll recognize. EspanaViva 08:59, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

I update the SatyrBot/Project list after every run, and if your run isn't on there yet, it's the next number. Is that waht you were looking for? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 16:20, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, it seemed like you are running other bot-projects as well, and I'd like to make sure that your internal bot numbering matches the numbering on the queue page. But ... I don't know what number your bot is up to! For example, if you've run other projects (like how we jumped from #6 to #8 on the queue page), how will I know what your number is for the time you run the next Spain-project? EspanaViva 23:58, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Duh . . . I'll take the run number from here. EspanaViva 00:58, 16 February 2007 (UTC) <-necesita un poco más café

LOL!!

The way I should do things is to take the log files, immediately after a run, and put them on their own page, then update that project list. I can't promise I'll always do it that way, but that's the way I should. :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 02:28, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Hope you don't mind ('cause constantly translating UTC to local time and vice versa makes my head spin), I added the UTC date/time to the Project list. That'll make it a touch easier for me (and I hope for you!) EspanaViva 16:30, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Run 11 done!

Yippee - moving through these chug, chug, chug . . . thank you! EspanaViva 23:27, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Run 12

Think of all the good that your little bot is doing! EspanaViva 23:53, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

LOL! I'm traveling this weekend, but I'm excited to finish the reprogramming so that it will be able to run more consistently. In preparation for that, will you have time (barring RL stuff) to review the Cat list and remove any that are "problematic"? You may have already done that - I see the problem list has grown quite a bit.

See, once I'm done with the reprogramming, we can give the bot a larger list of categories. It will be able to run for an hour, take a few minutes off, then pick up where it left off. So what do you think? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 00:07, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, maybe up to 75 or so? I'm just reluctant to do more at a single run, because some people get so fussy about perceived over-inclusion. I'd rather keep our stately pace, so that we/I don't get overwhelmed with people complaining, and can deal with just a small number each day (although there have been very few so far!).

I did got through the list a week or so ago, and pulled out the ones that seemed to need the closest looking at, so I expect that most (all?) the rest are ready to go! I'll look more closely at the top 50 or so shortly, and let you know . . . EspanaViva 19:44, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

OK, looked through the top 50 and made two small adjustments. Those top 50 or so should be good to go! EspanaViva 19:48, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

That's fine! I'm not going to go up from 40 yet - I still need to work on the code a bit before I do that, so I'll let you know when I'm ready for it. In the meantime, I'm staying with the 40 cats per night. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 21:21, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Bonino, Kohl

Hi! Your bot added the wikiproject spain thing to Helmut Kohl (German Chancellor) and Emma Bonino (Italian minister) probably because they won some spanish prize (Category:Prince of Asturias Award winners). I don't think they fall within the limits of that project. C mon 08:40, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Bot error

Your bot seems to have added Save the Children to project Spain. I suggest you fix it --BozMo talk 10:27, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Spain project

Please untag all articles in Category:Prince of Asturias Award winners and re-evaluate them manually. You have tagged people of such amazing Spanishness as Paul Auster and Mikhail Gorbachev. Thank you, Kusma (討論) 07:35, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Not to mention Save the Children...--BozMo talk 11:47, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

I have deleted/rolled back most of them, but I did not touch the ones that sounded Spanish, so there could have been some left over or too many removed. May I suggest that you have a quick look at the categories before the bot runs on them to see if the content looks Spanish?Agathoclea 18:08, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Agathoclea, for your help! As you can see from the discussion, we've been doing that - usually two of us review the cats before the bot takes 'em. We missed it last night, though. Sorry for the over-tagging :( And thanks again for your help! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 18:35, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

No worries. do you actually have an admin on WikiProject Spain? That would help in rolling back future problems. Agathoclea 19:04, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't know - EspanaViva, is there an admin in WikiProject Spain? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)

Sorry we misconnected

I hadn't gotten up to Prince of Asturias award yet - sorry! They're right, can you unroll the Prince of Asturias award winners? I'll look farther down the list now. EspanaViva 17:24, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

OK, I've double-checked down to Presidents of Spain (several hundred down), and (fingers crossed) think we'll be alright! One small alert - there may be someone who complains about tagging articles relating to different provinces or areas in Spain. These complaints may be based on RL Spanish political issues. I've asked for a discussion on the WikiProject Spain page to see if the WikiProject wants to leave off any provinces from this tagging project. At this point, the people who have offered comments say that they want all the provinces of modern Spain to be included in the WikiProject. I'll let you know if a consensus forms along different lines! EspanaViva 20:02, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Kewl - thanks! See above convo - is there an admin in WP:SPAIN? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 21:21, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

No one jumps out at me - I'll post a query on our talk page, and let you know! EspanaViva 18:28, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Possible overtagging

Please review the tagging of the articles in Category:Fauna of Spain (and similar categories - possibly Category:Flora of Spain exists). These categories are unsuitable for categorising animals and plants, as is being discussed at WP:CFD at the moment (animals and plants should be categorised by biogeographical boundaries, not human political boundaries). To take an example, putting articles like Red Fox into a country-specific WikiProject is not really suitable. Does the Spain WikiProject really want input into every article about every single animal or plant in Spain? Animals and plants found only in Spain (such as Fuerteventura Chat), yes, the others, no. Hopefully some of these additions can be changed back. Thanks. Carcharoth 22:26, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Carcharoth! I'll ask the WikiProject Spain coordinator to review the articles in that (and related) category for over-inclusion. Thanks for bringing it to our attention! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 23:03, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll follow up with Carcharoth directly. EspanaViva 18:17, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I believe issue has been addressed. Please let us know if there are any further issues here. Thanks! EspanaViva 20:51, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Run 16 done

Run 16 is now done, and we'll see if there are any requests for "un-tagging." Don't seem to be any thus far . . . Thanks, Satyr! EspanaViva 21:13, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Kewl :) I've put in the cats for 17 - I don't recognize many of the names and I'm assuming they're provinces and such. Would you review once more to make sure? Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 22:06, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

'K - checking now . . . bzz, bzz, bzz ... EspanaViva 22:59, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

That was easy - they're all OK! EspanaViva 23:01, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, EspanaViva! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 23:31, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

all those cities in Run 18

All those cities and provinces in Run 18 look pretty safe . . . thx!EspanaViva 23:05, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

NP - thanks for checking! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)

All those cities seem to have bogged the bot down. It made it through 9+ cats, so I'm going to continue where it left off rather than adding any new cats to tonights run. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 15:44, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, go figure . . . all those winding medieval streets I guess! EspanaViva 18:36, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

more mistags

Your bot tagged Paul Krugman as connected to the Spain project -- clearly an error. As far as I know, the main country-specific work he's done has been on the currency crisis in Argentina and the long-term stagnation of Japan. He's written a bit on other international crises (e.g. Malaysia's imposition of capital controls). I can't recall any work on Spain. Auros 00:48, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Auros! Thanks for letting me know. Looks like Krugman won the Prince of Asturias Award - a Spanish award. That, of course, doesn't really qualify him for the WP Spain tag! I'll ask the project to look over the rest of that cat and remove the banner from any that don't belong. Thanks again! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 01:19, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Satyr, hmmm, I thought that (almost) all those Princes were rolled back already by Agathoclea (see comment above). I'll try to take a look at those again to double-check the roll-back! EspanaViva 19:14, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

OK, just did a quick sample in the Prince cat of 10 articles that shouldn't be tagged - 6 of the 10 had the tag removed, but 4 of the 10 still had the tag <sigh>. I'll go over the cat more thoroughly over the next week or so with a bristle brush! EspanaViva 19:25, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Run 19 completed, preparing run 20

EspanaViva, when you get a chance, would you take a look at Category:Prince of Asturias Award winners above, and a quick look at the cats for tonight's run? Thanks! BTW, last night was a *big* run! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 16:23, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

OK, looking at the next batch - Basque politicians has just two non-Spain articles in it (2/20) Dominique Joseph Garat and Agustin Xaho - an acceptable ratio, I think; what do you think? EspanaViva 19:34, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

That sounds fine to me. You or I can check them tomorrow and remove the tags.

Thanks for fixing these - I see you beat me to it! EspanaViva 20:37, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

P.S. I see what you mean about a *big* run! I hope that your bot got extra oats that night! EspanaViva 19:38, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

NP - a little extra WD-40 and it's good to go! :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 20:59, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Preparing run 21

EspanaViva - does Rolling Stone really belong in Category:PRISA? Other than that, things look good for run 21.

Appears to have been someone's earlier goof. I pulled it outof the cat. Scanning the next set of cats, it looks like List_of_Ambassadors_from_the_United_Kingdom_to_Spain in British-Spanish relations should not have the banner, Macworld in Spanish magazines should not (there's a Spanish-language version of this mag, I guess). Also, remove Category:Spanish_Air_Force_guided_missiles as a cat altogether, that's only a missile used by Spain (but not made by Spain). I'm sure that there will be a few other things that someone will bring to our attention, but those are the ones I've found so far.Espana Viva 20:48, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Sounds good - I'll keep an eye out for the macworld and list.

By the way, on a separate note, have you seen the "nested" version of tags for when there are multiple wikiproject banners on a page? Take a look at Timothy R. McVeigh (not the terrorist) for an example. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 17:28, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

I haven't liked earlier versions of this nesting idea because it negates a basic purpose of the banner in the first place! I don't mind seeing lots of WP banners - but I guess I'm in the minority. EspanaViva 20:48, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

I started working with this one because it seems to address that issue - that the banner is there for recruitment and basic information for the project - this keeps those issues while trimming them down to one line or so. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)

Preparing for run 22

Hi, EspanaViva! In preparing for tonights run, I've moved:

into the "manually review" section. And I'm not sure about one or two others - specifically, Category:Reconquista, Category:Almohad dynasty, Category:Abbadid, Category:Kings of the Visigoths, Category:Aragonese monarchs, and Category:Aragonese Empire people. Would you mind looking those over and making any changes necessary? Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 15:50, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, the good news is that you've jumped to 50 cats per run, the "easy there, big fella" news is that I haven't read that far ahead yet! In addition to the "not sure about" categories you identified above, please also move the following cats to the "manually review" list: Category:Spanish colonial period in the Philippines, Category:Spanish colonization of the Americas, Category:Umayyad caliphs of Cordoba, Category:Alcázars in Spain, Category:Nasrid dynasty, and Category:Battles involving the Almohad Caliphate. Thank you!

P.S.: As before, I'm going to have a RL crunch for the next several days, so my ability to lend a hand is going to limited for a several-day period of time! EspanaViva 22:40, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I made that change. If RL is going to be an issue for a few days, do you want to pause? I don't mind taking a couple days off and finishing up later this week or so? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 23:46, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

About pausing, either way is OK with me - you can decide. I've looked at the last several hundred, just moved a small handful (see here), and I think that all the rest are pretty much OK (venues used in the Barcelona Olympics, etc.). So, I'm OK with proceding or pausing - you can pick! I'll bet that the admin who was lending a hand would be able to answer any questions that may come up in the next several days! EspanaViva 15:02, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Preparing for run 23

Hi, EspanaViva! I'm going to continue on while RL takes you away. But I'm going to be extra conservative. For instance, I've moved these cats to the "manual review" list:

I figure being a bit more conservative will cut down on most all over-tagging while still allowing the bot to run through the list. Since we're down to around 5 or 6 days worth of runs, we might as well forge on through. But at any time, feel free to tell me to stop until you get back :) Have fun with RL! :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 15:30, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Winding down

Satyr - I'm able to sneak back in here for a few minutes. I've taken all the cats in that rump "manual review" list, and distributed them into the "bot-run" list, and into a final "someone go through these cats manually" list. This has been a very interesting project, and a lot of fun, I'll be able to say thanks better in a few days! EspanaViva 19:12, 3 March 2007 (UTC)