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Lewisville, Texas

Hi. Just to let you know I've completed the copy edit you requesteed of the GOCE. It's a nice article, well put together, and I doubt it should have much difficulty at GAN. I'll keep it watchlisted in case any further copy editing is needed during the GAN review. Rgds, --Stfg (talk) 16:38, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Very much appreciated, thanks a ton for the work you've done. Going through and looking at the changes, I don't see any problems. I have clarified a few things, though, to avoid some confusion:

• While the directional "northern" could apply to anywhere from the panhandle to East Texas, "North Texas" actually refers to just the northeastern portion of the state. So to clarify, I wikilinked it to North Texas.
• I changed "transport" to "transporation", but I think this is just a British/American difference.
• I fixed the dead link to the Rodriguez article (re:MCL Grand named best events venue).
• Finally, I admit I'm stumped on the issue of dashes. I can see you removed the uses of –. I don't really mind and I assume you know what you're doing, but for future reference, what's the policy on their use? I tried to refer to MOS:ENDASH, but is there a set policy somewhere else?

Otherwise, I'm good with all of the other changes. Thank you again for your generous help, and please let me know if I can assist in anything in the future. Runfellow (talk) 19:20, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

You're most welcome. I'm cool with all your changes. The North Texas claus shoud either read "... to settle the North Texas area" or "... to settle North Texas" (period). I'll leave you to decide which. Yes, transport/transportation must be a cross-pondian thing; I didn't know that one. About the endashes, the ones you had were all fine, but some more were needed, especially in page ranges in the references, so I ran the User:GregU/dashes.js script to make sure to catch them all. It likes to replace the html ndash codes with ndash characters (the first one to the right if the "insert" dropdown if you use Wikipedia's standard edit window).

Oh, by the way, as – is an html code, putting it inside a nowiki tag doesn't work. The trick is to write the ampersand using its html code, thus: – --Stfg (talk) 21:35, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Ah, got it, thanks. Runfellow (talk) 22:01, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Lewisville, Texas

The article Lewisville, Texas you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Lewisville, Texas for things which need to be addressed. Jezhotwells (talk) 08:12, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

UNT

You're welcome.--SidP (talk) 08:10, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

BBQ for you!

	Barbecue
	Thanks for the peer review! I hope you'll like the sausage and brisket I sent you, from Lockhart, Texas. TheAustinMan(Talk|Works) 14:08, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the review

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Grey Cup

I wanted to thank you again for your peer review of this article. I have nominated it at FAC, so any further improvements or suggestions you have would be most appreciated! Cheers! Resolute 01:20, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Natchez Massacre peer review

Thanks for your comments. They look very helpful and I'll get to them soon. Will you be watching the review page if I have any questions? Jsayre64 (talk) 01:21, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for such a delay; I have now finished going through your suggestions. I only disagree with moving the part about Marie Baron Roussin to a different paragraph, because I can't see where else it could fit in well. But please tell me if I missed something or if you have any more ideas for improving the article. Thank you for such a thorough review! Jsayre64 (talk) 05:06, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Also: What do you think of an FA nomination? Jsayre64 (talk) 00:48, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't really feel qualified to tell whether something is up to FA standards, since those fellows are pretty picky in their process, but the worst thing that could happen is they turn it down and you get a few more suggestions on how to make it better. I'll look over the article again sometime tonight to see if anything sticks out. Runfellow (talk) 01:08, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

I have finally made up my mind: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Natchez Massacre/archive1. Jsayre64 (talk) 04:05, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Apogee Stadium

Hi, Runfellow, I'm beginning the copy-edit you requested at the GOCE request page for the above article. Please feel free to contact me, or to correct or revert my edits if I'm doing something I shouldn't. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 21:47, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Done - Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 04:35, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks a ton. There were a couple of minor things I fixed just now, but most everything else will work fine, I think. Your work is greatly appreciated; please let me know if I can be of any assistance in the future. Runfellow (talk) 22:02, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

No worries, and thanks for fixing my typos - oopsie! :-) Wishing you well for your FA nomination. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 22:14, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Peer review/FC Bayern Munich/archive1

Would you be able to start the peer review for the article? Kingjeff (talk) 05:19, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Sorry it took so long, but I added a number of comments there today. Runfellow (talk) 02:53, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

I know it's been over a year since you did that review. You gave a bunch of helpful comments there, but sadly nobody ever acted on them. I have a mind of implemeting your suggestions, and just wanted to say thanks for your peer review. OdinFK (talk) 21:59, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

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Rollback

Hi Runfellow. I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:

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Peer Review

First off, i'm very happy with your in-depth analysis. Secondly, i'm just letting you know you have replies here (if you didn't notice). Thanks ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 11:43, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

I could do with a bit more assistance on my last few. Thanks ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 18:59, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Jinnah now at FAC

Hi, Muhammad Ali Jinnah is now at FAC, here]; as you recall you did a most thorough peer review. I was hopeful you might be able to opine on whether the article meets the FA criteria. Thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:14, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

I added some brief comments in support of promotion. Best of luck. – Runfellow (talk) 18:03, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for that. Your work was so good I may impose again!--Wehwalt (talk) 18:37, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Belated response to Independence Pass (Colorado) peer review

I'm sorry it has taken me this long to get to it, but I have finally gotten down to implementing your many very helpful suggestions. I've taken the liberty of checking {{done}} on the many where you were hands-down right; here are some where I had some further explanations:

• Additionally, the highway isn't mentioned in the rest of the article. Per WP:LEAD, the section needs to summarize the rest of the article. Generally speaking, something so specific as the highway information is fine in the lead, but it should definitely be part of the rest of the article.: It is ... its closure every winter is noted, and there's a section about CDOT's maintenance issues with the road (bow many other public highway in this country have had a private foundation step in to pay for some badly-needed remediation (Of course, how many are so fortunately located?). Put it this way, if it's seen as important enough to assign a line to in the infobox, it can be in the lead.

• You have "tree-line" hyphenated here, but elsewhere in the article (and in Wikipedia's own article) it's two separate words: See here. I had hyphenated it because I had thought the article still spelled it that way; I am increasingly convinced that it's perfectly acceptable in American usage to make it one word even when it's not in a prepositional phrase.

• Comma after "Since 2011".: As far as I've always been taught it is fine in American usage for an introductory adverbial phrase not to be set off by a comma if it precedes an otherwise simple sentence (whereas, if it came before a compound or complex sentence, it should be so set off (and in British usage it never is)).

• "abandoned and neglected" - To sound more chronological, "neglected and abandoned" might work a bit better here.: I used "abandoned" in the somewhat legalistic sense of meaning the entity responsible for maintaining and operating it ceased to do so. Neglect tends to follow from that, although in the case at least of a road or path people still could use it, although not at previous levels of efficiency.

More as I continue. Daniel Case (talk) 06:56, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

No worries on the time gap. A few responses:

• Regarding the highway: You're right, it is clearly mentioned. I'm not sure what wavelength I was on when I wrote that, makes me think I meant to say something else. Either way, wouldn't worry about it.
• Regarding "tree line/treeline/tree-line", I'm not terribly worried about it. So long as you're consistent within the article, things usually end up okay. Since Merriam-Webster's definition points to "Timberline" by default, you could potentially use that, but it would have to wikilink to Tree line anyway, since timberline is just a disambiguation page.

The treeline article suggests that there's a difference in meaning between the two words—"treeline" is the point above which trees do not/cannot grow above shrub height, or at all, and "timberline" is the point above which nothing of commercial value can be logged. Daniel Case (talk) 05:26, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

• It's not going to bother me if you with that philosophy on commas after date phrases, but I think it involves more than adverbial phrases. WP:DATESNO doesn't really address the issue directly (I think), and the CMOS is a bit confusing. In the 16th ed., 6.36 states that a comma isn't necessary after an adverbial phrase (though not required either), 6.45 says no comma after date if there's a month mentioned, but doesn't really mention the year alone), but 9.32 contains an example that uses a comma after an introductory phrase in a very simple sentence. So just go with whatever works for you, I suppose.

Our own MOS is silent on this subject. I couldn't find my CMOS, so I went to look at my AP Stylebook (which shaped a lot of my writing). Their take is that commas aren't needed following a non-essential introductory phrase unless it's necessary to avoid confusion over the meaning of the sentence. I think the same thing stands for phrases at the end. As far as the comma after that one "and", I didn't put one in because it wasn't being used as a conjunctive, and there were only two items in the list. Daniel Case (talk) 05:26, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

• Either order is okay for "abandoned and neglected".

I'll keep track of the PR as you update. – Runfellow (talk) 17:39, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Second set of expanded responses

OK, some further expanded responses:

• "in modern dollars" - I think the proper term is "in 2012 dollars", but since we're talking about inflation from a period from a long time ago, I think it might be better to add an "approximately" in there.: In about six weeks it won't be 2012 anymore. It will probably still be accurate, but I don't think it will be in 2022, much less 2112. But it will need to be accurate all the same.

  My understanding is that the {{inflation}} template's algorithm is periodically updated to account for this (assuming you don't set a specific target year, which I usually don't). I suppose I could and should use "approximately" since I usually set the template to round off to two or three decimal places to produce a round number.

  A note on the phrasing: I used to use "in contemporary dollars" until someone pointed out that the original figure was already in contemporary dollars; what I wanted was, indeed, "modern dollars".

Addendum: It seems that the MOS says "Large round numbers are generally assumed to be approximations; only where the approximation could be misleading is it necessary to qualify with words such as about." Open question, though, as to whether it's necessary to qualify with a smaller monetary amount. Daniel Case (talk) 06:05, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

• Also, I think the citation there goes outside of the parentheses.: Not according to MOS:REFPUNC: "... where a footnote applies only to material within parentheses, the ref tags belong just before the closing parenthesis.". Daniel Case (talk) 19:55, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
• "Three years later, in 1876" - You only really need one or the other. I would go with "In 1876,".: I do that belt-and-suspenders thing because very often I've seen people change an arithmetical formulation to the year, at the cost of turning the entire paragraph into a string of sentences that begin "In YEAR," Some people have also expressed confusion over the "three years later" thing because they're not sure which year it's supposed to be later than.

  And yet at the same time I think grafs full of numbers, years or not, deter people from reading them deeply. So ... as a way of idiotproofing them against the sort of well-meaning yet superficial editor who thinks they're making a reader's life easier but sometimes creates more confusion than they thought they were resolving, I deliberately use this redundancy. I also find it creates more chronological unity in a narrative when a series of events are being described and recounted in prose. Daniel Case (talk) 05:26, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Third set of expanded responses

• You've already wikilinked "Fourteeners" earlier, no need to do it here too.: I know WP:OVERLINK says this, but in practice I think one link a section in a longer article is fine. We forget that the in-community audience at PR, GA and FA is not the primary audience of our articles. A lot of people who read them won't necessarily be reading them all the way through. After a search engine gets them here, they'll look at the intro, then look to the table of contents for the section that they believe will have the info they're looking for, and click the deeplink (The increasing amount of readers on mobile devices, where browers or apps sometimes default to the mobile-specific mirrors of the site like wapedia, are probably even more likely to do this as the interface more strongly encourages that way of reading).

  They certainly would be justified in expecting an unfamiliar term to be linked so they could learn more about it. After all, there's nothing telling them to go look through the rest of the article for the first reference to "fourteeners" or whatever else it is that they might be curious about. Especially in a long article with hundreds upon hundreds of words, where you aren't constantly using the term.

• "the village whose establishment on July 4 led to the pass's current name" - This seems redundant since this information is covered in the history section.: Again, see above. Further, it's relevant to mention it there as the historicity of the site is where its interest to visitors lies. Daniel Case (talk) 17:10, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
• "Described as "nipple-deep" - by whom?": That's in the cited source, footnoted a sentence or two later, I think. As long as the wording is clear that it's not our description, do I need more than that? Daniel Case (talk) 19:44, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

OK, now to the structural stuff:

• I'm not sure if there's a template out there that says otherwise, but I would highly recommend moving the history section above the geography and making the environment section a subsection of geography. In fact, you may even be able to completely eliminate the "Environment" heading altogether.: I know that for some things, like settlements, we put history first and then do geography. I feel, however, that reading about how a place came to be is easier when you know where it is and how big it is. A lot of our other mountain and mountain pass articles, I think, do this.

  As for the environment, again a lot of our other articles have this section separate from the geography. This is, actually, the section of the article I see as most in need of expansion. I'm going to be emailing a link to it to the IPF to see if they're interested in doing some external peer review on it, and whether they can help me get a copy of a book about the pass's ecology that they reference on their website (seems like it would be a good source). Daniel Case (talk) 19:14, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

• That said, I'd also move the section on the IPF to a subsection in the history section above.: I had thought of doing that originally, but there was enough to add and enough parallel non-IPF history that constantly changing the frame of reference seemed confusing.
• The block quote from the book seems like a good inclusion, but it might be better suited to the geography section, since it describes the landscape more than the actual history of the area.. Two reasons for this. First, it's not encyclopedic. Second, it makes the point that the pass was beginning to be seen as a scenic attraction, worth visiting in and of itself, rather than something to get over. Daniel Case (talk) 19:26, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
• It might be a bit of a bear, but some time, you'll want to go through and rephrase a lot of your "had", "have", and other similar phrases. Do a ctrl+f search on all of the "had" on the page. Some of them are fine, others could be changed into clearer phrases.: Will do, but I tend to do this because, as a result of having studied Russian so extensively, I've gotten very sensitive to aspect (it's a big enough deal in the Slavic languages that we have a separate article about it, and in Russian you have to learn almost every verb in perfective–imperfective infinitive pairs). So, when I write that "Aspen, too, had begun to fall on hard times .." it's because that was a process already underway, rather than beginning at that point in time. The "haves", though, might be a different story.

As for the commas, we've already discussed that. And thanks very much for the compliments! Daniel Case (talk) 19:26, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	I just want to say you've done a fantastic job editing North Texas articles! It's refreshing to see major improvements to articles like Denton, Lewisville, and Dallas. As a fellow North Texan, I'm proud to present you with this Barnstar. --Mahanga (Talk) 17:58, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks a ton, much appreciated. Still quite a bit to do in a lot of articles, but there's plenty of time to do it, too. – Runfellow (talk) 18:35, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Peer review

Hi. Since you give comments on music-related articles that are listed at WP:PR, I was wondering if you could give some helpful comments to Wikipedia:Peer review/Cher/archive1? Thanks, Lordelliott (talk) 05:20, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Good edits

Hey Runfellow, I wanted to let you know I think you made good edits on the Dick Armey page. I made a few edits recently, and the page was in need of major work. I think you were right to delete the chunk you did--it looked like WP:Coatrack to me, not to mention WP:Undue. Thanks for being bold! Safehaven86 (talk) 01:19, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Once I sort of filter a few things and get things in the right place (shouldn't be too much of that left to do) I do hope to add a few relevant bits of information, along with good sources. This is, I think, just something that happens on occasion when you have a subject with a lot of attention during Wikipedia's "early years", then not much for a while, and then a sudden burst of attention (in this case, leaving FreedomWorks). Runfellow (talk) 17:37, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Will Sutton photos

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Talk:2004 Emerald Bowl/GA1

I have reviewed the GA nomination of this article and placed it on hold pending resolution of some small prose concerns. Cheers! Resolute 02:09, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

And passed, congrats! Resolute 17:45, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

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Peer review of Bolton

Hi Runfellow, thanks for starting your peer review of Bolton. I note that at the bottom you say you would add more comments on the rest of the article in the near future, would you mind doing so? Thanks very much Johnnaylor (talk) 13:34, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Jürgen Ehlers trying for FA

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2011 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup Final Peer Review

Thank you so much for your detailed review of the article. I have finally finished responding to all of your suggestions. I apologize for taking as long as I did to get back to you on them. When you have a spare moment, please review my responses to ensure you are satisfied with the outcome. In most cases I did exactly what you suggested, but there were a few where I did something different. Thank you again for taking the time to help improve this article. --SkotyWA^T_C 08:21, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

No problem. Looks good. The article looks quite a bit cleaner. There are a few very minor discrepancies, but I'm sure those can be sorted out during the FAC process. Best of luck on getting the article promoted. – Runfellow (talk) 18:08, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

2007 Navy vs. North Texas football game GA Review

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Wikipedia:Peer review/2007 Appalachian State vs. Michigan football game/archive1

Hey, I just wanted to note that I have addressed all concerns you made on the article. Thanks for giving such a comprehensive review; it really helps the process go faster. :) Toa Nidhiki05 02:55, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

No problem. Best of luck on improving the article. – Runfellow (talk) 15:12, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Carolina Panthers FAC request

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Fight Hunger Bowl

You will notice I have deleted the Kraft from the 2013 Fight Hunger Bowl again. There is a reason for this. During the postgame festivities last night, Fight Hunger Bowl President Gary Cavalli announced that Kraft had not renewed the title sponsorship for the 2013 season. At this time the bowl is just being called the Fight Hunger Bowl. A new title sponsor is expected to be announced in the next few weeks, but for now the bowl game is just the Fight Hunger Bowl. You'll notice on every news release done yesterday (CBS, ESPN, College Football Talk, and the official bowl website) that Kraft is no longer listed. The 2013 logo doesn't feature Kraft on it either. Bigddan11 (talk) 16:21, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

You're right, my bad. I hadn't noticed that they were doing that now, but I'll pay better attention in the future. Thanks for fixing it. – Runfellow (talk) 20:11, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

2007 Appalachian State vs. Michigan football game

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Thanks for the peer review

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Lovely. You're quite welcome. Best of luck on getting the article through the FA process. Runfellow (talk) 15:02, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

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Battle of White Sulphur Springs

Runfellow - Thank you so much for your peer review of the Battle of White Sulphur Springs. It is one of the best Peer Reviews I've had. As you know, this battle is a part of an expedition with multiple objectives, and I have problems deciding how much coverage to give to the expedition. I will try to incorporate all of your suggestions over the next week. As info, James Martinus Schoonmaker was the young (20 years old) colonel of the 14th Pennsylvania Cavalry, and during 1864 he commanded a brigade. Perhaps that and the info about Patton's future grandson should be footnotes. I may have questions next week. Thanks again TwoScars (talk) 13:32, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

First question: You wrote: "one of the best–trained and best–disciplined" should have an attribution in text, if you're quoting directly from a source. The quote was written by a source author, Eric Wittenberg. He was not quoting anybody else, and the end of the sentence cites Wittenberg and page 20. Are you saying that I should say Author Eric Wittenberg called Averell's regiment "one of the best–trained and best–disciplined" volunteer cavalry regiments in the Army of the Potomac. ? (Also, when Googling Wittenberg one will see he is often called a "historian"—but you are saying I should not use the term "historian"??) Your thoughts? TwoScars (talk) 20:33, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Gotcha. I totally understand the coverage question. Obviously, what often draws us to articles is our expertise on the subject. Naturally, we want to share that expertise. Happily, I can say that the coverage you've given it is correct in its scope. I see so many articles that want to branch off into other topics, but yours stays close to home. To your questions:

Regarding the first question, I mention the direct quotes because it is always a good idea to avoid naked quotes. It's not as if you've done something wrong by putting that source in the references, but I'd like to know who expressed something that is being quoted directly. See also WP:INTEXT, which reads that "In-text attribution should be used with direct speech."

Regarding the term historian, I think it's a perfectly acceptable word (after all, I teach history!) I just get a little nervous about the term since it's so broad. Given the controversy around Civil War history, I always like to be as specific as possible.

I will also go through your notes on the peer review and answer questions as I see them. Great work so far! Runfellow (talk) 12:54, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

@Runfellow: - I think I have gone through everything. If you have anything else, please let me know. I definitely appreciate all the work you have done on a small battle important mostly to West Virginians. TwoScars (talk) 18:35, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

@Runfellow: - I think I have gone through your 2nd round of comments. Thank you for all your work. Best Peer Review ever! TwoScars (talk) 18:51, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

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