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Question[edit]

How did you copy links to comments like [1]? I'm guessing you didn't write out the URL fragment by hand? ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 01:33, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

hi @ProcrastinatingReader – I'm generating links to specific comments using a gadget the Editing Team created. If you'd like to try the gadget out for yourself, you can find instructions for installing it on mediawiki.org here: Topic:Wmredg44lh8v9x9i.
Note: if you end up trying the feature and comments/questions/ideas emerge while you're using it, we'd value knowing what they are! PPelberg (WMF) (talk) 03:41, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Will try it out. I suspect an issue might be that these links will stop working after a section is archived. Currently I've been using User:Evad37/TimestampDiffs which turns the timestamp into a diff link (eg [2]) but comes with the downside that you can't view the discussion after the comment without manually finding the section in archives. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 12:41, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I suspect an issue might be that these links will stop working after a section is archived.
Good instinct. What you described above is accurate: the links this gadget produces will break if/when the comment to which they are linking is moved to a different page (e.g. archived, as you mentioned).
With this said, the Editing Team is actively working on a way to offer genuine permalinks that will continue to function if/when a comment is moved or archived. This work is happening in T296801. PPelberg (WMF) (talk) 23:21, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 27 March 2022[edit]

The Signpost: 24 April 2022[edit]

Phabricator tickets[edit]

Hi Peter! Lately I've found myself subscribed to a lot of Phabricator tasks, such as this one you authored. I enjoy being able to follow along with features as they're developed, but it's a little more than I can actively follow. Am I being directly added to tasks like that or is it happening (semi-)automatically because of something I followed elsewhere? {{u|Sdkb}}talk 21:49, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yikes! I'm just now seeing this message, @Sdkb. I think you were getting auto-subscribed to tasks I filed as sub-tasks of tickets you had elected to file. Going forward, I'll be sure to make sure the subscriber lists don't get "copied" over in these cases. Thank you for stopping by to say something ^ _ ^ PPelberg (WMF) (talk) 23:43, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 29 May 2022[edit]

The Signpost: 26 June 2022[edit]

The Signpost: 1 August 2022[edit]

Thank you[edit]

Thanks for your mail.
Just to note though, please make sure you won't confuse my admittance of sometimes being difficult to deal with with an admission of wrongdoing. I don't always go easy on others, but I don't expect others to always go easy on me either, especially if I screwed up. Conflict can drive solutions and blowing off steam is generally healthy IMHO. User talk:Alexis Jazz/Bawl/preload starts with "Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly) " for a reason.
Sometimes I can take things slightly too far, but even when that happens the only way to resolve differences is to keep talking. I was thankful when matmarex shared his hack to make windowed popups, but he didn't really respond to the several concerns I voiced about it.
I wonder if either matmarex or Esanders would have reported me to the TechConductCommittee. Being as vague as the committee is and having no return channel to the reporter really fosters speculation/paranoia. I doubt it was you, it might have been Aklapper but I somehow think he would have said something. I had interactions with both matmarex and Esanders in Phabricator tickets that were mostly tangentially related to VE, but I'm not sure I posted in any ticket about VE itself recently. Of course, someone I don't even know could have filed the report.
My current thought is "How hard would it be to implement a decent bugtracker on-wiki?" I think it would take 1-2 weeks to a useful prototype, but I'm not sure if/when I might try that. Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 04:13, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

hey @Alexis Jazz – I appreciate you following up with me here. I can understand you seeking answers to questions like the ones you've posed above. And while I don't think you were expecting me to be equipped to answer them, I thought it might be worth saying explicitly (so as to avoid any kind of ambiguity): I do not know anything about the message you received from the Code of Conduct/Committee. The above said, I'm motivated to do what we can to get these mobile edit notices out and available to people. I'll have an update about the Editing Team's work on this next week. PPelberg (WMF) (talk) 23:40, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I know you likely wouldn't have answers. Maybe if you'd happen to know (from private communication) who filed the report and that person would be okay with you telling me. But if that was the case you'd have told me by now. The only thing you could technically do (but have zero obligation to) is to ask TechConductCommittee to answer me as there is currently no indication they plan on telling me what their message is even about. They probably wouldn't give you personally any information, but if they gave me links I'd share them on-wiki.
There's one reason I can think of for you to consider that: it'll tell you something about how they operate. If they provide a reasonable answer, maybe the committee is slightly less terrible than I currently make them out to be. If they stonewall you, you'll know they are accountable to no one. Which could be handy to know.
Though I respect it's easier to keep your head down. Especially considering who signs your paycheck. If at any point it would come down to a choice between keeping your head down or having to worry about paying rent, I never could or would blame you for taking the paycheck.
As you may have noticed, keeping my head down is not a quality I possess or would like to possess.
I'll have an update about the Editing Team's work on this next week. Where will you post it? I'm guessing T312587? Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 03:36, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Where will you post it? I'm guessing T312587
@Alexis Jazz: yep, I'll be posting an update on phab:T312587 and Wikipedia_talk:EditNoticesOnMobile before this week is over.
On the topic of the TechConductCommittee, would it be okay for us to agree to stop talking about this? Please know this question comes from a place of kindness and that I ask it in attempt for us to be on the same page about me not having anything to offer to this particular discussion. Note: I considered not addressing this topic at all in this response. Tho, I assumed you would value me sharing what I'm thinking rather than having to assume on my behalf. PPelberg (WMF) (talk) 01:51, 10 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for being clear. I can only speculate what your motivation is. My request to you was to make a singular request, potentially a single line, to ask the committee to provide some links. I have at least 5 theories as to why you'd decline that request, but the why is irrelevant: you have no obligation to, so it's fine.
Similarly, I have no obligation to help the editing team (or anyone else), so I'll be minimizing my contributions to Phabricator. I've already skipped on reporting several bugs because I just don't care anymore. So unless an issue involves ENOM, don't count on my input.
There's been friction between the WMF and me, but I often understand both the community/user side and the developer side, and I can translate between the two. I thought about the possibility of applying for a paid position/contract/something at some point. Thanks to TechConductCommittee's (largely staffed by people on the WMF's payroll) unwillingness to answer a simple question, nobody has to worry about that anymore. I'm sure that's a relief for many.
I'll check your update once you post it. Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 04:53, 10 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 31 August 2022[edit]

The Signpost: 30 September 2022[edit]

The Signpost: 31 October 2022[edit]

The Signpost: 28 November 2022[edit]

The Signpost: 1 January 2023[edit]

The Signpost: 16 January 2023[edit]

testing PPelberg (WMF) (talk) 19:53, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Testing highlight[edit]

testing


PPelberg (WMF) (talk) 19:53, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia Hackathon 2023[edit]

Hello Sir... Hope you are fine?? I just applied for this year's hackathon... I'm hoping to be enlisted... Moreover I need more info on it... Thanks Yaw tuba (talk) 23:08, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

hi, @Yaw tuba – I think the best place to ask questions about the hackathon is by visiting Wikimedia Hackathon 2023 and if you don't see the answer to the question(s) you have in mind, you might consider asking them on this talk page. I hope this helps! PPelberg (WMF) (talk) 18:13, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oh okay.... Thanks a lot Yaw tuba (talk) 20:15, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]