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Spring Cleaning

The first archive of this discussion page has recently been completed. If new discussion is wanted, please comment on this newly cleaned talk page.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 16:21, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

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For your renewed effort in getting Bog turtle to featured article. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 16:32, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
Thank you so much for all your help and support!--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 16:34, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
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FA

I've gotten sucked into the real world, and didn't get to help out as much as I'd have liked to, but I think a legitimate congratulations is in order for you and your fellow contributors to the Bog turtle article. I just finished reading it over, and you did a fantastic job. Strombollii (talk) 22:14, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I am forever glad for you help with locating journals, wikipedia decorum advice etc. Again, thanks. :)--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 23:15, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
I relize I haven't done that much since the original citation work--I've been busy elsewhere on Wikipedia--but I have been watching. You folks did a really good job of running this article up to FA status. Congratulations are definitely in order. Donlammers (talk) 02:04, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
Thank you! I saw you come in there towards the end and make a few fixes. Thank you for all your citation work, we couldn't have done it without you!--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 19:11, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Re:

Another turtle? Fine with me. No problem if it needs to wait for a while; there'll be enough rice rats in the meantime. Good luck with your exam tomorrow! Ucucha 02:33, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Cool! Give me a week or so to get things sorted out. The exam was this morning and it was rather tough. Anyways, thanks for the reply and I hope to begin work soon!--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 19:12, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
I like the Wood turtle. Of the three, it needs the most work and is, luckily for me, in the same genus as the bog turtle!--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 21:31, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
On Talk:Wood Turtle I added nine potential refs (just the URLs, I don't want to run them through a ref generator until I check them out a little further and we see which are most usable/reliable). When you get a change, let me know what you think of them.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 21:53, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Looks good; it'll need some work. I'll probably be able to get some more from Google Scholar or the Zoological Record. I looked at a few of your links, and they seem pretty good; I'd generally prefer academic literature over brochures from state agencies and similar pieces, though. Ucucha 22:15, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
I haven't really given any of these a second look, strike through any that appear to be unreliable/unhelpful (I haven't used any yet, I have just been changing the aesthetics of the article for now).--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 22:16, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
OK; it may take some time, though, as I've a few other articles I'm working on and I'll be moving out of school for the summer soon. Ucucha 22:36, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Absolutely, no rush. I still have several things going on, but I will continue to steadily work on the article. Thanks!--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 22:37, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Distribution map

I was wondering if you could point me back to the page where you can request the creation of a distribution map? Thanks! and again Congratulations on FA but now you have a documentary to do! Reddevil1421 (talk) 23:02, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Sure, here. You have to leave them a request along with one or (preferably) two reliable sources for the distribution. They're kind of slow right now, I'm currently trying to get a dist. map for the wood turtle... Thanks again, and yeah, the documentary is taking sort of a long time and a lot of energy :(--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 23:04, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Linking and other concerns

Hey Dom, if I link something in the article summary, should I not link it anywhere else in the article? Also, I'm having a hard time understanding what to do with the taxonomic concerns on our GA review. If you could possibly give me some kind of idea of what I can do to address our reviewer's concerns it would be greatly appreciated.--TimHAllstr (talk) 00:11, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

From what I've heard several editors say, nobody really knows what the proper etiquette is in regards to linking. Some say to link once in the lead and once again in the body of the article (preferably the first instance of the word), other say to strictly link things once (always the first instance of the word). I've stuck with the former and nobody really has a problem with it. As for the taxonomic concern, I will reply there since it has to do with the actual review.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 01:44, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Regarding linking, see WP:REPEATLINK. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 02:00, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Big help, thanks!--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 21:00, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I see you already got to work. Just wanted you to know that I added a few more things. It's a fine article! Best wishes, Xtzou (Talk) 19:59, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Hello, thanks for picking up the review. I appreciate your comments greatly!--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 20:01, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
I have asked one question, but really I am ready to pass the article. You have done a very good job! Best wishes, Xtzou (Talk) 23:15, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Great, thanks!--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 00:12, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
It has passed. Congratulations on a wonderful article. Xtzou (Talk) 11:44, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Thank you so much for all your help and guidance. As I said elsewhere, I hope we meet up again some time.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 11:46, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Do the wood turtle venture into Canada? Regards, SunCreator (talk) 20:18, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Setting the Standards

The WikiProject Barnstar
I'm very proud of your dedication to the cause and the maturity in which you conduct yourself - delighted to see your efforts rewarded with an FA on the bog turtle - not to mention the GPA boost! --JimmyButler (talk) 19:09, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
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Thank you Mr. Butler, it was an honor to work on this project and collaborate with wikipedians to create a great article!--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 19:22, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

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ditto. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 21:55, 25 May 2010 (UTC)


Where you'd suggest newbies could get advice on images.

Hi, NYMFan69-86. The question was raised at User_talk:Philcha#Newbie_advice. I think I know the answer, but I'll ask :-) --Philcha (talk) 19:59, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

I responded there (thanks for seeking out my opinion, I'm happy to help).--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 23:04, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Well for any GA the criteria WP:GACR is to be meet and likewise WP:FACR for an FA; in practice it's helpful to find something similar. There is not a lot, many plants and dinosaurs, not really ideal. Oryzomys seems about the nearest I could find. Here is a list of potential others....

FA's

Aiphanes Albertosaurus Allosaurus Amanita muscaria Amanita ocreata Armillaria gallica Babakotia Banksia cuneata Banksia epica Banksia prionotes Banksia sessilis Banksia sphaerocarpa Banksia spinulosa Banksia telmatiaea Boletus edulis Chorioactis Chrysiridia rhipheus Compsognathus Coprinellus micaceus Cyathus Cyclura nubila Daspletosaurus Deinonychus Deinosuchus Delichon Drosera regia Edmontosaurus Eremoryzomys Fertilisation of Orchids Ficus aurea Galerina marginata Geastrum triplex Gorgosaurus Herrerasaurus Iguanodon Lactarius indigo Lambeosaurus Lundomys Lycoperdon echinatum Majungasaurus Mindomys Mycena haematopus Noronhomys Oryzomys couesi Oryzomys dimidiatus Oryzomys gorgasi Oryzomys Panellus stipticus Parasaurolophus Pinguicula moranensis Polyozellus Pseudoryzomys Psittacosaurus Rhodotus Telopea speciosissima Thescelosaurus Transandinomys bolivaris Verbascum thapsus

GA's

Acer rubrum – Aerodramus – Agaricus texensis – Agkistrodon piscivorus – Akodon caenosus – Alioramus – Aloe vera – Amanita abrupta – Amanita daucipes – Amanita exitialis – Amanita onusta – Amanita regalis – Amphicoelias – Ankylosaurus – Aonchotheca forresteri – Archaeamphora – Armillaria luteobubalina – Ascocoryne sarcoides – Astraeus hygrometricus – Banksia acanthopoda – Banksia menziesii – Banksia oligantha – Banksia violacea – Banksiamyces – Batrachotomus – Battarrea phalloides – Bitis arietans – Bitis gabonica – Boletus frostii – Boletus mirabilis – Boletus pinophilus – Boletus pulcherrimus – Boletus zelleri – Brachytarsomys mahajambaensis – Buxbaumia – Caloscypha – Calostoma – Carcinus maenas – Carletonomys – Cicuta – Coelurus – Commelina communis – Coprinopsis atramentaria – Cordyline australis – Crucibulum – Cryptoprocta spelea – Cryptothecia rubrocincta – Ctenosaura bakeri – Cyathus helenae – Cyathus olla – Cyathus stercoreus – Cyathus striatus – Cylindropuntia imbricata – Cyptotrama asprata – Daboia – Dendrocollybia – Drosera anglica – Drosera – Ekbletomys – Entoloma sinuatum – Euryoryzomys emmonsae – Eustrombus gigas – Galerina sulciceps – Geastrum pectinatum – Gomphus clavatus – Gryposaurus – Gyromitra infula – Hadropithecus – Handkea utriformis – Holochilus primigenus – Hydnellum peckii – Hygrophorus agathosmus – Hypacrosaurus – Kimberella – Kritosaurus – Lactarius piperatus – Lactarius subdulcis – Lactarius volemus – Leucopaxillus giganteus – Lobaria pulmonaria – Marasmius rotula – Megalomys audreyae – Mesopropithecus – Mutinus elegans – Mycena californiensis – Nepenthes rajah – Oecomys sydandersoni – Omphalotus nidiformis – Opabinia – Ornatifilum – Oryzomys albiventer – Oryzomys anoblepas – Oryzomys antillarum – Oryzomys nelsoni – Oryzomys peninsulae – Othnielosaurus – Pachycephalosaurus – Paxillus involutus – Pelvicachromis pulcher – Pentachaeta bellidiflora – Phallus impudicus – Pholiota flammans – Plateosaurus – Postelsia – Potamon fluviatile – Prosaurolophus – Pseudocolus fusiformis – Ptyonoprogne – Pulveroboletus bembae – Rajasaurus – Roystonea regia – Russula virescens – Salvia divinorum – Sarcoscypha coccinea – Sarcoscypha occidentalis – Sarcosphaera – Saurolophus – Sauropelta – Scelidosaurus – Scutellinia scutellata – Scyllarides latus – Spinosaurus – Stevia – Streptococcus iniae – Stylidium – Suillus americanus – Suillus brevipes – Suillus spraguei – Tachyoryctes rex – Tiktaalik – Toxotes chatareus – Trachylepis tschudii – Tricholoma pardinum – Trillium grandiflorum – Tylopilus plumbeoviolaceus – Urnula craterium – Utricularia inflata – Varanus salvadorii – Verpa bohemica – Vipera berus – Wynnea americana – Zombia – Zygoballus sexpunctatus –

Basic structure perhaps something like Oryzomys

The question no doubt is occurring to you how much of the existing Bog turtle and Wood turtle do you include. I imagine you include a section for each, with the text basically a copy of the lead. Then use the {{main}} to link to them.

Bog turtle

The bog turtle (Glyptemys muhlenbergii) is a semiaquatic turtle that is endemic to the eastern United States. It was discovered in Pennsylvania in the 18th century and first scientifically described in 1801. It is the smallest North American turtle, measuring about 10 centimeters (4 in) long when fully grown. Although the bog turtle is similar in appearance to the painted or spotted turtles, its closest relative is the somewhat larger wood turtle. The bog turtle can be found from Vermont in the north south to Georgia and west to Ohio. Diurnal and secretive, it spends most of its time buried in mud and, during the winter months, in hibernation. The bog turtle is omnivorous, feeding mainly on small invertebrates.

Adult bog turtles weigh 110 grams (3.9 oz) on average. Their skins and shells are typically dark brown, with a distinctive orange spot on each side of the neck. Considered threatened at the federal level, the bog turtle is protected under the United States' Endangered Species Act. Invasive plants and urban development have eradicated much of the bog turtle's habitat, substantially reducing its numbers. Demand for the bog turtle is high in the black market pet trade, partly because of its small size and unique characteristics. Various private projects have been undertaken in an attempt to reverse the decline in the turtle's population.

The turtle has a low reproduction rate; females lay an average of three eggs per clutch and lay one clutch per year. The young tend to grow rapidly, reaching sexual maturity between the ages of 4 and 10 years old. Bog turtles live for an average of 20 to 30 years in the wild. Since 1973, the Bronx Zoo has successfully bred bog turtles in captivity.[1]

Wood turtle

The wood turtle (Glyptemys insculpta) is a turtle endemic to North America. It is in the genus Glyptemys, a designation given to only one other turtle: the bog turtle. The wood turtle reaches a carapace length of 14 to 20 centimeters (5.5 to 7.9 in), its defining characteristic being the pyramidal pattern on its upper shell. Morphologically, it is similar to the bog turtle, spotted turtle, and Blanding's Turtle. The wood turtle exists in a broad range extending from Nova Scotia in the north (and east) to Minnesota in the west and Virginia in the south. In the past, it was forced south by encroaching glaciers: skeletal remains have been found as far south as Georgia.

It spends a great deal of time in or near the water, preferring shallow, clear streams with compacted and sandy bottoms. The wood turtle can also be found in forests and grasslands, but will rarely be seen more than several hundred meters from flowing water. It is diurnal and is not overtly territorial. It spends the winter in hibernation and the hottest parts of the summer in estivation.

The wood turtle is omnivorous and is capable of eating on land or in water. On an average day, a wood turtle will move 108 meters (354 ft), a decidedly long distance. Many other animals that live in its habitat pose a threat to it. Inadvertently, humans cause a large number of deaths through habitat destruction, road traffic, farming accidents, and illegal collection. When unharmed, it can live for up to 40 years in the wild and 58 years in captivity.[2]

Hopefully that has given you some ideas. You could ask the same question at WP:ANIMAL, WP:AAR, WP:TOL, WP:BIRDS, WP:GAST etc.Regards, SunCreator (talk) 00:17, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

This is huge, thank you so much. I will jump right on this within the next few days (you are a saint!).--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 00:29, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
You want some sort of Cladogram. I just made this up, but you can get it sourced.

Bog turtle(north population)

Bog turtle(south population)

Wood turtle

Glyptemys Cladogram
Also you require a map with all both the Bog and Wood turtle on. Obviously not this, but something with two distinctive colors. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 00:56, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
This map is of the Oryzomys
This map is of the Oryzomys
Yes, a good map would be helpful in this article. The wood turtle dist. map is still being processed (I assume) over at the wikicommons graphics department. Thanks for the cladogram, that's a big help. When I asked you the initial question, I had no idea you would go through so much trouble for me, thank you.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 01:07, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Completion of general layout

Okay Suncreator, after looking through some of the other genus FA and GA articles, I have come up with an outline for the article. Do you see anything that needs to be added/taken away (expansion and research to follow).--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 18:32, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Looks good, further reading and external links perhaps, but such things can always be added as things develop. The basic structure seems a good one. This is a tough challenge. All the best with it. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 19:43, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Alright, thank you for all your help.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 20:58, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Commons

See first steps tutorial on commons. By the way what template did you start with? I tried myself but could not find a suitable image that covered all the areas Wood turtle inhabit. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 01:17, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

I think login is the same user/pw as it is on Wikipedia. Could be wrong as set that up a long time ago. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 01:39, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, I know how to get to commons and upload an image (I had to do it with the bog distribution), I was just wondering what to do as far as copyright and things like that. I used a page from a google book to generate my image. I used this template to start with, than I edited the image, cropping some from the west and north.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 03:16, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
From what your saying here copyright is a derivative work of a file from Commons. Like Commons:File:Bog_turtle_distribution_map.svg, see Original upload log section. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 13:52, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Is it a derivative work though? I got my information from an online book and edited the blank map. I don't want to upload the image as an edit to the blank map, which would make it unusable for others...right?--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 14:17, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Well, the best place to ask is Commons:Village pump. Commons:Commons:Village pump. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 15:23, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Alright, thanks.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 15:23, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
That's mine, it looks kinda weird, but whatever.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 23:45, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
True. It might attract someone to improve on the original. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 00:00, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
I changed it a little, it might look better now.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 00:12, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Hey, good job on your review there. Soon you won't be calling yourself a newbie anymore. Best wishes, Xtzou (Talk) 20:26, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Ha...thanks!--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 20:33, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!!

The Reviewers Award The Reviewers Award
Thank you for all your guidance and help on the loggerhead sea turtle. You are quite the "monster" at editing. Vancemiller (talk · contribs · count · email) 01:04, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
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Thank you Vance, you have just successfully completed the crowning achievement of both of Mr. Butler's AP projects. My copy-editing was negligible but my comments/concerns were fierce, and you handled them like a champ...great work and hope you decide to make Wikipedia a long term thing.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 15:18, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm not planning on leaving any time soon, but unfortunately I won't be able to do any major editing for most of the summer (governor's school)... Vancemiller (talk · contribs · count · email) 15:26, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
I gotcha...have fun there and long live the loggerhead.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 17:30, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Let’s talk turtle

I think Ucucha is right, a genus article should concentrate on what they have in common, and how they differ from turtles outside the genus, rather than the differences within the group. In taxonomy, for example, I’d expand general turtle taxonomy to show where this group fits into the overall scheme of things, and add spotted turtle (at least) to the cladogram. Same principle for other sections.

In the bird project, we wouldn’t have status in a taxobox above species level, your project may differ. I’d expand conservation by putting the status there. It goes without saying that the three article should have the same headings, and I’d recommend adding a navbox to all three articles. The range map on the genus article would look better if they were combined on one map, or (less work) put in a double image box like River martin. I hope this helps, let me know when it’s further on and I’ll comment again if you wish Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:09, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Okay, that makes sense. I've made a double image of the maps (which I knew I would eventually have to change). I'll continue my work (in a somewhat different direction)...but one more question: what's a navbox (a thing that lets people navigate between the articles)?--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 15:06, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I'll write one for these Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:20, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
It's done and added. You could add the English name for the genus, if there is one. The only category I've put the template in is Turtle, you might want others. It would look better if your two maps had the same colour scheme. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:42, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
That looks good. The maps were hard enough to get, but maybe a little later others can be made. Thank you for your help.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 17:51, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
Why do the two Massachusetts's pdfs have different formats for their references, and why is one under notes and the other under bibliography? I've meddled to fix some formattingJimfbleak - talk to me? 16:09, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure. The refs under notes link to the ones under bibliography: different page numbers within the PDF or article. Is the formatting incorrect for one (or more) of them?--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 17:51, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
Glad to see your in capable hands with Jimfbleak and Ucucha. River martin is a better example article then anything I discovered. The Featured topic concept is also something new to me. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 01:43, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Oh...thank you. The River martin article is good, a similar layout will be applied to the Glyptemys article.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 01:58, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Well-deserved

Hi, NYMFan69-86


The Barnstar of Diligence
What don't you do? Philcha (talk) 23:29, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
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Thanks friend...I'm fairly diligent, but what's this for?--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 00:18, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

From a personal view, for your comments about User:Philcha/Essays/Advice for new Wikipedia editors. More objectively, keeping your schoolmates' progress on the school project(s) when I guess a few thought "school's out for summer". --Philcha (talk) 06:10, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Indeed. Your dedication to this project and the example you have served and will serve to those that follow are deeply appreciated. Best of luck in your own academic journey. --JimmyButler (talk) 15:53, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Now I understand. Thank you so much for the award and kind words. The school project was an amazing experience to all who actively participated...I felt like I learned a lot and did some real good for people interested in bog turtles. The loggerhead fell under much more scrutiny than the bog, but the two major contributers did a fine job staying with it and fixing the concerns. I can't wait to speak to and help next years group. Thanks to both of you.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 19:59, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

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Congrats on Bog Turtle at TFA. Smallbones (talk) 02:30, 30 August 2010 (UTC) Thanks!!--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 15:15, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations; judging from the amount of vandalism the article gets, it's probably well read. Ucucha 15:30, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
At least today it's well read :)--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 22:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

We're Back

We are up and running. Wikipedia:WikiProject AP Biology 2010. Also, this may be of interest:Wikipedia:WikiProject AP Biology Bapst 2010--JimmyButler (talk) 23:28, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm really pleased to see that you've stuck with this; it's already achieved stuff I never would have thought was possible. (I deliberately introduced a semicolon there, to give your students something to aim at. ;-) )Malleus Fatuorum 23:46, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Now I'm disappointed. The Bangor Maine High School Project from above was set up for 2010; however ,looking at the edit history it's not been touched since April. Apparently - it never got off the ground.I wonder why???? This is especially annoying since it lifts verbatim my prose and retains our links. Make this ghost town of a project go away Wikipedia:WikiProject AP Biology Bapst 2010- it is depressing. Surely, there are other high school teachers out there that see the beauty of this.--JimmyButler (talk) 00:31, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Certainly you have influenced other editors. It is good to see additional high schools participating. I know that, for those who participated, the project last year was a great experience. Hopefully this other team can represent their high school this year like we did last year.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 03:05, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps of interest. http://www.ur.umich.edu/update/archives/100826/wiki found here. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 17:00, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
More info University of Michigan Class Project Part II. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 17:18, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. Editing Wikipedia truly is a great educational experience.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 21:47, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
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Please email Philcha

Hi, NYMFan69-86. You may wonder what's going. The short answer is WP politics. If you want to minimise impact on the work you and JimmyButler have done on my pages, please email me. --Philcha (talk) 01:48, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't seem like I can e-mail you because your userpage is fairly empty now. What is happening??--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 01:56, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
I've set up a minimal user page. Does that make email possible? --Philcha (talk) 04:46, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Maybe you don't know how. Special:EmailUser/Philcha. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 11:55, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 14:48, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
  1. ^ PS this whole section would be referenced as part of a Glyptemys article.
  2. ^ PS this whole section would be referenced as part of a Glyptemys article.