User talk:MilliGrams/centaur-sandbox

List of goals[edit]

Reorganize the sections under new headings that better describe the information
Reorganize the information so that all related information is together
Reconsider the "Origin" section in order to provide context for the reader who might have no background in mythology
Highlight any potential instances of original research and reach out for potential citations
Reorganize the article based on an inverted pyramid structure and similar articles such as brownie and kelpie

Reworking the Mythology Section[edit]

Some parts of this section are a little bit hard to follow for someone who has no background in mythology since a majority of it lists names with little context. I am going to rework it to try and add a little bit of that context and hopefully help the flow of information. --MilliGrams (talk) 23:09, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Original Research?[edit]

The following is a sentence I removed since it didn't have a source and might fall under WP:OR. If anyone has a source for the information, please share! --MilliGrams (talk) 03:29, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The centaur's half-human, half-horse composition has led many writers to treat them as liminal beings, caught between the two natures, embodied in contrasted myths, both as the embodiment of untamed nature, as in their battle with the Lapiths (their kin), or conversely as teachers, like Chiron.

I also removed the following paragraph because it didn't have proper sourcing. Please share if you have a source! --MilliGrams (talk) 19:55, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Of the various Classical Greek authors who mentioned centaurs, Pindar was the first to describe undoubtedly a combined monster.^[1] Previous authors (Homer) tend to use words such as pheres (cf. theres, "beasts")^[2] that could also mean ordinary savage men riding ordinary horses, though Homer does specifically refer to a centaur ("kentauros") in the Odyssey.^[3] Contemporaneous representations of hybrid centaurs can be found in archaic Greek art.

Updated section headings/organization[edit]

Based on the information already found in the article, I think that the following organization might give a better idea of the information present:

Mythology
- Creation of Centaurs
- Centauromachy
Etymology
Origin Theories
Variations
- Female Centaurs
- Indian Centaurs
Artistic Representations
- Classical Art
- Medieval Art
- Literature
Modern Day

--MilliGrams (talk) 03:56, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

^ "...that strange race was born, like to both parents, their mother’s form below, above their sire’s." (Second Pythian Ode).
^ For example, Homer Iliad i. 268, ii. 743. Compare the Hesiodic Shield of Heracles, 104.
^ At Odyssey 21.295ff, Antinous tells the disguised Odysseus the tale of the drunken rage of Eurytion, the centaur who caused the strife between the centaurs and the Lapiths. The Greek word for centaur appears in lines 295 and 303 of Book 21.

[1] "...that strange race was born, like to both parents, their mother’s form below, above their sire’s." (Second Pythian Ode).

[2] For example, Homer Iliad i. 268, ii. 743. Compare the Hesiodic Shield of Heracles, 104.

[3] At Odyssey 21.295ff, Antinous tells the disguised Odysseus the tale of the drunken rage of Eurytion, the centaur who caused the strife between the centaurs and the Lapiths. The Greek word for centaur appears in lines 295 and 303 of Book 21.

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