User talk:Meatsgains/Archive 19

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Edit war warning

Your recent editing history at Juul shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Did you read this? QuackGuru (talk) 15:58, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

@QuackGuru: Are you at all familiar with the three-revert rule? Clearly not... I've reverted the addition to Juul twice [1] [2] over the course of three days. That is not an edit war. Please read through the actual policy WP:EDIT WARRING before you come and slap this warning on my talk page. Meatsgains^(talk) 15:50, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

RE: Joint Action Health Equity in Europe

Greetings, I'd appreciate getting feedback on the Talk:Joint Action Health Equity in Europe Daveylee (talk) 19:33, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Looks like the page was deleted. My guess is that it was deleted for lacking notability. Meatsgains^(talk) 15:42, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter November 2019

Hello Meatsgains,

This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon.

Getting the queue to 0

There are now 803 holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action.
Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.
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About Akram Habib article

Thank you for notice. I added a couple of sources from different social media and news sites as references. --CaeserKaiser (talk) 20:59, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Social media should not be used as a reliable source and does not establish notability. Meatsgains^(talk) 19:06, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Reliable sources have been added from JSTOR and Google Books to the article. --CaeserKaiser (talk) 20:41, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

AfD noms using Page Curation

Greetings. I had reverted the AfD tag you placed on Americans for a Free Syria because no discussion page was created. As this tag was placed using the page curation tool, I'm wondering whether there's a bug there or if not all necessary steps were followed somehwere. I notice that the same thing happened today with your nomination of Akram Habib, but I've left it alone for the moment as the article creator has created the discussion page by leaving a comment there. Please follow up there. Thanks. --Finngall ^talk 17:48, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the notification. Not sure why a discussion page wasn't created... I'll look into it. Meatsgains^(talk) 19:04, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Also the page's creator also added multiple reliable sources to Americans for a Free Syria so I am not looking to nominate again. Meatsgains^(talk) 19:10, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The No Spam Barnstar
	Great job rewriting Spring Place (Members Only Club). I was watching your progress in my watchlist, and I admire how you turned it into something that reads like an encyclopedia article. Schazjmd (talk) 01:12, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

@Schazjmd: Thank you! Much appreciated. Meatsgains^(talk) 01:52, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Katupitiya Walauwa

Hello! I want to confirm this missing place. So I included this Katupitiya Walauwa So How To Confirm This Article? Can you help me? And Thank You And I have to include more details for this article. I will Do it soon. And Thank you.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wishmithak (talk • contribs) 07:42, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Please take this discussion to the WP:AfD here. Meatsgains^(talk) 15:20, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination

Hello! You tagged TicTol for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly indicate why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia. I wanted to discuss it here with you and ask for your help in creating this article. Wikipedia has a list of all project management software in which they are compared with regard to their features and tools. The software for which I tried to create a Wikipedia entry is a newly released one, but it belongs on the list with others so that other users who look at the list can compare and decide which software suits them the best and which of the most important features they have, how they can be used. There is no other place where all of this is available. In order to add it to this list, the software has to have its own page to prove it is legit and functioning. Also, a Wiki page about it would be the quickest way for people to learn more about it without reading biased promotions and ads. Would this be good enough reason? Thank you, --Ivona Co (talk) 02:25, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

You can discuss why you feel this page should not be deleted on the article's talk page however, Wikipedia is not for users to "compare and decide which software suits them the best". Also, you've provided zero reliable sources establishing any kind of notability. Meatsgains^(talk) 02:53, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for you comment, I will make sure to make use of what you explained. Ivona Co (talk) 10:08, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Maurice Kamga

I did not delete Maurice Kamga , which you had tagged for speedy a7, because the assertion that the person is the Secretary of the Int Court of Justice is a statement of plausible significance. It's true itwas entirely unsourced, so BLP Prod would have been appropriate, andI will place it unless I can immediately source it. DGG ( talk ) 00:07, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

@DGG: I see you found a source supporting Kamga holding office. Thanks! Meatsgains^(talk) 02:54, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

@DGG:, @@Meatsgains: : Would you mind to advise what to do? I put the sources, references of the article about Maurice Kamga in French version -- Lybil (talk) 07:59, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

I see that the French version has been moved from mainspace there to your user space there, as https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Lybil/Brouillon, on the basis of not having sufficient third party references--it does have many references , but they are essentially all his own writings, and the content consists mainly of a detailed CV. For the English article, we would want only the key accomplishments, and his books, aand possibly his yearbook contributions, not his other articles. You then need to find references to reviews of his books in professional publications, which may be difficult outside a specialized library. The way to proceed is to then look for newspaper and magazine references to his work. DGG ( talk ) 16:49, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

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Contest deletion of Solana Paz

Hello @Meatsgains,

I'm contesting this deletion because I'm not sure if you read my message pertaining to this, and if you viewed the subject's IMDb page. Please let me know, as I would like to either have it recovered or recreate it. The list of films she has appeared in, as well as that she has studied under reputable acting coaches; and gives back to the community through mentoring and youth actors' workshops, I feel, warrants her having a page.

Please let me know. I've read many of the educational pages of instruction for Wikipedia adding and editing. And, have contributed to the correct number of posts. So, it is discouraging that you will not allow this page. What else does one need to do to gain the "worthiness" for a page? Please advise. (BTW: P.S. I am not Solana Paz.)

Thank you so much, @CAOneto — Preceding unsigned comment added by CAOneto (talk • contribs) 02:24, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

I recommend starting a draft in your WP:SANDBOX before uploading it to the mainspace. You will need to provide reliable sources detailing Solana Paz to establish notability. I have a feeling you will have tough time finding adequate sources to warrant a page. Meatsgains^(talk) 02:29, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	thanks for fixing some mistakes I did on my page. WIZ*ONEI (talk) 02:34, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

You're welcome! Meatsgains^(talk) 02:57, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Cheers

Damon Runyon's short story "Dancing Dan's Christmas" is a fun read if you have the time. Right from the start it extols the virtues of the hot Tom and Jerry

This hot Tom and Jerry is an old-time drink that is once used by one and all in this country to celebrate Christmas with, and in fact it is once so popular that many people think Christmas is invented only to furnish an excuse for hot Tom and Jerry, although of course this is by no means true.

No matter what concoction is your favorite to imbibe during this festive season I would like to toast you with it and to thank you for all your work here at the 'pedia this past year. Best wishes for your 2020 as well M. MarnetteD|Talk 22:25, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you and Happy Holidays! Meatsgains^(talk) 22:55, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

You are welcome and thanks back atcha for the HH wishes :-) MarnetteD|Talk 23:14, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Vaniyambadi Revenue district

I removed the AfD for this page because the nomination was abandoned without being completed. Based on WP:AFDHOW, it looks like you did Step III first, then Step I, but skipped Step II which is where you provide the reason for deletion. If you still want to have the article deleted, please feel free to re-nominate it. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:55, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

@Metropolitan90: Thanks for the note. This has happened to me before when I use page curation - must be a bug. Anyways, I will not be nominating again. Meatsgains^(talk) 01:51, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

AfD page for Vaniyambadi Revenue district

Hello. I noticed that you nominated Vaniyambadi Revenue district for deletion, but did not create an AfD page for it. I guess it is a bug of Page Curation or something? You might need to manually create the page. --94rain ^Talk 04:56, 18 December 2019 (UTC) Never mind. Only just now did I realize that Metropolitan90 had already notified you when I was typing this message... Regards, 94rain ^Talk 13:23, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

As I mentioned above, this has happened to me before. Not sure what causes it... either way, thanks for notifying me! Meatsgains^(talk) 01:52, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter December 2019

Reviewer of the Year

This year's Reviewer of the Year is Rosguill. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.

Special commendation again goes to Onel5969 who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to Boleyn and JTtheOG who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.

Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.

Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.

Top 10 Reviewers over the last 365 days
Rank	Username	Num reviews	Log
1	Rosguill (talk)	47,395	Patrol Page Curation
2	Onel5969 (talk)	41,883	Patrol Page Curation
3	JTtheOG (talk)	11,493	Patrol Page Curation
4	Arthistorian1977 (talk)	5,562	Patrol Page Curation
5	DannyS712 (talk)	4,866	Patrol Page Curation
6	CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk)	3,995	Patrol Page Curation
7	DragonflySixtyseven (talk)	3,812	Patrol Page Curation
8	Boleyn (talk)	3,655	Patrol Page Curation
9	Ymblanter (talk)	3,553	Patrol Page Curation
10	Cwmhiraeth (talk)	3,522	Patrol Page Curation

(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)

Redirect autopatrol

A recent Request for Comment on creating a new redirect autopatrol pseduo-permission was closed early. New Page Reviewers are now able to nominate editors who have an established track record creating uncontroversial redirects. At the individual discretion of any administrator or after 24 hours and a consensus of at least 3 New Page Reviewers an editor may be added to a list of users whose redirects will be patrolled automatically by DannyS712 bot III.

Source Guide Discussion

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Happy Xmas

Merry Christmas, Meatsgains!
Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity. Atlantic306 ^{User talk:Atlantic306} 11:12, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you and Happy New Year! Meatsgains^(talk) 02:04, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

MMXX Lunar Calendar

Meatsgains,
Have a great 2020 and thanks for your continued contributions to Wikipedia.

– 2020 is a leap year – news article.
– Background color is Classic Blue (#0F4C81), Pantone's 2020 Color of the year

Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year 2020}} to user talk pages.

– North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 18:44, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you and Happy New Year to you too! Meatsgains^(talk) 02:27, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

TransLatina Coalition

Hi Meatsgains, before you posted the reFill box on the TransLatina Coalition page, I had been trying to get reFill to work on the page for 20 minutes, to no avail. Can you get it to work on your end? I've been using it over the past number of weeks without a problem, but between yesterday and today, it seems to have gotten corrupt or something. I'm not technically very savvy so if you could run it on your end to consolidate some of the page's redundant citations, that would be so great! Let me know once you do, if you could! --Caterpillar84 (talk) 02:03, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

@Caterpillar84: I also attempted to use the refill tool before I added the linkrot tag but ran into the same issue you did. I'm thinking it may just be a temporary bug that will likely be resolved in the next couple days. I'll continue checking. Meatsgains^(talk) 02:41, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Ok, sounds good. Cheers,--Caterpillar84 (talk) 03:25, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Hess Corporation (toys)

The article Hess Corporation (toys) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Content should be merged into Hess Corporation, content not notable enough for a standalone article.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. CatcherStorm ^talk 02:35, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

Contesting speedy deletion for I just work here soft redirect

Hi Meatsgains,

I appreciate your good-faith speedy deletion tagging per G3 of I just work here, but note it's not a hoax. It's a valid soft redirect to Wiktionary and, thus, if you feel it's not useful, you can discuss at RfD.

This is a new territory for New Page Patrollers as the documentation guide doesn't currently include information on soft redirects. I'm in the process of drafting one, but for now, see also Talk:Megathread and WP:SOFTREDIRECT.

Cheers,
--Doug Mehus T·C 02:29, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Comment I have also created soft redirects to Wiktionary for Googlewhore and $DEITY, which I'd appreciate you marking as 'reviewed' as Rosguill did with Megathread.

Essentially, Wiktionary soft redirects prevent hoax pages from being repeatedly recreated, prevent cleanup activities, encourage participation at sister Wikimedia projects, and encourage article creation. --Doug Mehus T·C 02:33, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

@Dmehus: Although I don't particularly see the page as useful, I already removed the speedy deletion tag. Meatsgains^(talk) 02:32, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Meatsgains, thanks, I appreciate that, but actually, the Category:Redirects to Wiktionary shows we have nearly 1,500 Wiktionary redirects to non-encyclopedic content. The main thing is they (a) help to promote our sister projects and (b) help us to enforce WP:NOTDICTIONARY. Doug Mehus T·C 02:35, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Meatsgains, The problem is they're pseudo-redirects, so they show up in the "others" feed of the curation tool, even though they're essentially redirects. Doug Mehus T·C 02:35, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Meatsgains, basically, my understanding of what you need to look out for in reviewing soft redirects is that:

The link to the Wiktionary entry is an existing target (if not, you should be able to tag as G8 since it's a non-existent target);
The title should usually not include a parenthetical disambiguation qualifier as that suggests we already have an encyclopedia article on the topic; and, finally,
Check to ensure that the user has added the {{Wiktionary redirect}} template, preferably added the optional {{longcomment}} template (via substitution); and that it's got both a public and a hidden maintenance category.

If all of the above exist, then you can mark the page as reviewed in the Page Curation Tool.

If we have an existing article on the same' thing (i.e., Milkshake Duck), then Milkshake duck is probably more appropriate as a redirect there, and {{Wiktionary}} should be added inline on the text of that page.

Does that help?

Rosguill, do I more or less have that right? Doug Mehus T·C 02:56, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Dmehus, I mean, as far as I'm aware we don't really have any actual guideline-or-policy-level advice for reviewing soft redirects (and barely have an essay, plus a guideline about deletion, for reviewing redirects in general), so at this point any advice that sounds reasonable is as authoritative as it gets. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 03:33, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Sounds good. I'll try and make my focus on working on that draft for you to look over. Doug Mehus T·C 03:38, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer newsletter February 2020

Hello Meatsgains,

Source Guide Discussion

The first NPP source guide discussion is now underway. It covers a wide range of sources in Ghana with the goal of providing more guidance to reviewers about sources they might see when reviewing pages. Hopefully, new page reviewers will join others interested in reliable sources and those with expertise in these sources to make the discussion a success.

Redirects

New to NPP? Looking to try something a little different? Consider patrolling some redirects. Redirects are relatively easy to review, can be found easily through the New Pages Feed. You can find more information about how to patrol redirects at WP:RPATROL.

Discussions and Resources

There is an ongoing discussion around changing notifications for new editors who attempt to write articles.
A recent discussion of whether Michelin starred restraunts are notable was archived without closure.
A resource page with links pertinent for reviewers was created this month.
A proposal to increase the scope of G5 was withdrawn.

Refresher

Geographic regions, areas and places generally do not need general notability guideline type sourcing. When evaluating whether an article meets this notability guideline please also consider whether it might actually be a form of WP:SPAM for a development project (e.g. PR for a large luxury residential development) and not actually covered by the guideline.

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Chaos by User:Shabicht at Austrian Southern Railway

Could you please look into the chaos created by user User:Shabicht at various articles aruond the Austrian Southern Railway? His change is completely unnecessary; he did not understand the problem User:Kleeblatt187 described in 2018 (which I solved long ago); he is not able to do article movements correctly (therefore the talk link of Austrian Southern Railway now points to the talk page Austrian Southern Railway Company, which makes it impossible to comment on the useless new article); and he uses "his" new article to add discussion comments.

I have added respective constructive comments at his user page, which triggered him to add the wrong "comment" his new article page, and the other concerned pages.

I see his idea - it's not per se wrong. But that's not the way to create a new article if there already is enough text around about precisely what he (presumably) wants to write in the near or far future.

Hello User:Haraldmmueller and Meatsgains - thank you for your opinion! I'd like to say:

(a) You finally have to look more globally, English and German Wikipedia are the only one that had the articles about Austrian part of Austrian Southern Railway only, but the line never ended at Slovenian border but in Trieste! I suggest to enyone to fullfill the new article "Austrian Southern Railway" about Slovenia and Italy also (and not the other lines of Austrian Sudbahn Gesselschaft) like they wanted to, and to you not to delete it! The articles about entire Austrian Southern Railroad exist in Slovenian and Italian Wikipedia for a long time, but they had not to be connected with others correctly!!

(b) I got a big complain from German wikipedists because there was no space for an article about entire Austrian Southern Railway (and not about Austrian part only), couse there was article "Austrian Southern Railway " (Austrian Sudbahn) before (not the line but company). Only after my complains they finnaly renamed it into "Sudbahn-Gesellschaft". I have a big support from Slovenian wikipedists about corrections also!

(c) I had big troubles about correct categorisation of the all articles in four different languages (English, Slovene, German, Italian), (just try it!) so I please you to understand that I cannot make everything like anyone wanted to be! P.S.

(d) the opinion of my friend:I tried to fix a few more things today at wikidata and commons. As far as I understand your message above: It seems to me that the real problem is at en-WP en:Southern Railway (Austria), as this article has been mixed up with information about the railway line and the previous company. I have already put it there at the discussion page a while ago. Unfortunately we cannot really solve the problem of en-wp at wikidata. It seems to me that in all other wp-languages there is a difference between the previous company, the former Südbahn-line from Vienna to Trieste and today's Südbahn-line only within Austria. Best wishes, --Kleeblatt187 (User talk:Kleeblatt187) 15:06, 27. februar 2020 (CET)

P.S. My talk page in on Slovenian Wikipedia, please use it, like others do!

User:Shabicht 09:13, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

I think the chaos has diminished substantially. Looking into the respective articles might still be nice, but certainly it's no longer necessary. --User:Haraldmmueller 17:38, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

A Dobos torte for you!

7&6=thirteen (☎) has given you a Dobos torte to enjoy! Seven layers of fun because you deserve it.

To give a Dobos torte and spread the WikiLove, just place {{subst:Dobos Torte}} on someone else's talkpage, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

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Thank you! Meatsgains^(talk) 19:43, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

On the German exonyms for places in France page

Hello there, Meatsgains! I recongize the page "German exonyms for places in France" has no sources. This because i'm copying and reformatting information form the "List of German exonyms " page. However, if there's any specific protocol I should be aware of, please don't hestitate to tell me. Thanks in advance. Starbeam2 (talk) 21:12, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Understood however, the tag will remain on the page until references are added. Meatsgains^(talk) 16:16, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Christine Morrissey

Hi! I see you tagged this for deletion, but Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christine Morrissey seems broken. Not contesting the AfD, just technical issue. I unfortunately have no idea how to fix it. If you don't either, happy to close this as malformed and you can re-nom. StarM 03:00, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

@Star Mississippi: I've experienced this AfD "bug" in the past. Not entirely sure why this keeps happening. Feel free to close it out and I can nominate for AfD when I get a chance. Thanks! Meatsgains^(talk) 16:19, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Done. You're all set. I'm not watching her page, so ping me again if you need me to do anything else. StarM 01:55, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

@Star Mississippi: Thanks! Instead of nominating for deletion, I just tagged the page for notability. Meatsgains^(talk) 01:58, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Cat

the article I made is now categorized. thanks --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 00:10, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! Meatsgains^(talk) 00:20, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Chad Mayes

Links of anything mentioned in this section of the page are no longer active. It is unreliable information. The only sourced link that works calls the information a politically motivated attack. If Wikipedia was a place for “politically motivated attacks” to be published, it would be a disservice to the readers. Please remove the false content from this page. This is no forum for political attacks GolfGuy7 (talk) 02:00, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

@GolfGuy7: Please read through WP:LINKROT. Do not delete cited information solely because the URL to the source does not work any longer. Meatsgains^(talk) 16:21, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Alinah Kelo Segobye

Apologies if this is in the wrong place, still new to Wiki.

You've tagged this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alinah_Kelo_Segobye for speedy deletion as not notable. I'm confused because following the guidelines here for academics:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(academics)

I would have assumed notability under criterion 3 (elected fellow of the African Academy of Sciences) and possibly under criterion 7 (invited to address UNESCO event, position on national HIV board.)

Is the problem the lack of Segobye's achievments, or simply that they are not presented clearly enough for you? (i.e. a redraft but not a speedy delete?)

Thanks in advance

Rg161 (talk) 14:15, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Looks like the speedy deletion tag was removed. Meatsgains^(talk) 16:18, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

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On 29 March 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article S.W. Randall Toyes and Giftes, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after 50 years in business, S.W. Randall Toyes and Giftes is both a landmark and a stop on "Haunted Pittsburgh" tours? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/S.W. Randall Toyes and Giftes. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, S.W. Randall Toyes and Giftes), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Speedy Deletion of Pride at Work Canada

Hi there. I saw you have recommended the page I just created for speedy deletion. I admit I haven't written a lot of pages from scratch but I'm actually trying to do more. I'm amazed at how many pages on important Canadian work are not included on Wikipedia. So, my question to you is what could I have done differently to avoid this flag? I included multiple references to articles that show the importance of the organization in Canada. What else could I do? Appreciate some guidance. BadNewsBear (talk) 15:32, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

If I remember correctly, the reason I PROD'd the page was because the subject lacked notability and significant coverage in reliable source. The sources you provided were weak, primary, and only mentioned the organization in passing. Hope this clears things up. Meatsgains^(talk) 20:48, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

luciano micallef page

Hi I was in the process of adding content on Luciano Micallef page when my computer crashed this evening i hope to continue working on this page tomorrow. Please do not mark for deletion as it still has content that needs to be added. thank you. Angie Balzan (talk) 18:31, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

I added the initial speedy deletion tag but user Praxidicae added another one after you removed mine. Meatsgains^(talk) 00:18, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

One thing to note - the page now reads highly promotional. I recommend fleshing out ALL the promotional language. Meatsgains^(talk) 00:19, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Let me look into it and continue with my amendments. Thanks for the pointers. I removed the deletion tag because when you placed it the page had only one sentence of content. Your deletion tag would have been justified in the circumstance. However, I continued working on the page and added more data and citations that gave it more body and relevance. I will read through again and continue formulating it to emphasise the notability of this artist whilst also cleaning it of any superfluous language as you have suggested. Angie Balzan (talk) 09:48, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Looks like the page has been deleted. Don't get discouraged though! I would recommend, for future pages, creating a draft in your WP:SANDBOX before uploading to the mainspace. Here you can make any changes and ask for user feedback before the page is deleted. Meatsgains^(talk) 15:08, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Ways to improve Jean Emery

Hi,

Done :) --Chelin (talk) 18:45, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Excellent! Meatsgains^(talk) 18:46, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of The Wicked 7

Dear Meatsgains,

Thank you for your mediation. Yet, I consider the subject of Wicked 7 is significant because it is an organization that brings together many experts from economics, business, politics, and activists who aim to address significant global issues and engage people in solving them. The article is currently incomplete but I am working on it to develop its full potential. The people behind this project have proven that they are changing things for the better.Anthony W. Ulwick, Stuart L. Hart, Michael J. Gelb, David Hinds, Thomas H. Davenport, John Seely Brown, David Cobb (activist), Clark V. Fox, Adi Ignatius, Henry Mintzberg, John Elkington (business author), Anil Kumar Gupta, John Hagel III I'll just need some more time to expand the article.

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A kitten for you!

Hey, I saw your edits on the page I created title Mandy M. Roth. But I'm not sure about the other parts that need fixed to get it approved. Could you help me please?

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Thank you however, the tags on Mandy M. Roth need to be resolved before they can be removed. The page needs additional reliable sources for verification and that will in turn establish the subject's notability. Hope this helps! Meatsgains^(talk) 16:04, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Æther Realm

Hi Meatsgains. I've added the band page for Æther Realm since they've been signed by a major metal record label and have produced their third professional LP. They're an established, reviewed band now. Their albums are treated as a major release now (see double review at https://www.angrymetalguy.com/aether-realm-redneck-vikings-from-hell-review/). Happy to add any further suggested content - cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Galtenberg (talk • contribs) 00:51, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

@Galtenberg: Thanks for reaching out. Are you able to provide additional reliable sources that establish notability? The page's current references (blogs and a press release) are weak. Meatsgains^(talk) 00:54, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

@Meatsgains: I should have included references to their major review on Blabbermouth https://www.blabbermouth.net/cdreviews/redneck-vikings-from-hell/, also https://distortedsoundmag.com/album-review-aether-realm-redneck-vikings-from-hell/. Their 2nd album crossed 3.5 million streams on Spotify https://www.facebook.com/AetherRealm/photos/a.843116179066725/3354097031301948/?type=3&theater. They're certainly not a huge band, but are now established enough in the metal community.

@Galtenberg: I recommend adding reliable sources to the page and I will remove the PROD upon completion. FYI Facebook does not count as a WP:RS. Meatsgains^(talk) 01:10, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

@Meatsgains: Actually just added the sources now to the page. Appreciate the guidance.

Looks like PROD has been removed, thanks! Meatsgains^(talk) 14:57, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

AfD for Ufitikirezi Daniel

Greetings. Dunno if it was yet another Page Curation bug, but no discussion page was created. Thanks. --Finngall ^talk 03:45, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

@Finngall: Well, that's annoying... thanks. Meatsgains^(talk) 22:52, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the edit

Hello and thank you for the work that you do. I have tried for days now to send you this but didn't know here is the right channel to reach you and thank you for the edit until I read a lot of articles on how to do this. I'm delighted to have a senior editor look through this article and effected corrections to it. I look forward to when it will be visible in search results so that people can read it, and that will be a motivation that Wikipedia finds my work fairly good for public display. I hope you can help in this area.

Once again, thanks. Ojimafebian (talk) 08:17, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

@Ojimafebian: Welcome! We're delighted to have you and hope you're here to stay. Feel free to reach out with any questions you may have when editing. Meatsgains^(talk) 16:37, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Jordan Wayne Long

Hi @Meatsgains: How goes it? I posted this to Afd on NPP Review. Could you find another couple of other sources. scope_creep^Talk 12:22, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Sorry for just now getting back to you. Took a little hiatus but I'm back now! Looks like the page has moved from draft to mainspace, which is good! Meatsgains^(talk) 01:37, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

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Your revert...

at Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain - if you are reverting anything that isn’t vandalism you should leave an edit summary as to why. The IP doesn’t know celebheights.com isn’t reliable. SK2242 (talk) 01:02, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

10-4, I was just in a rush I suppose. Meatsgains^(talk) 15:49, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

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Hello you marked the new page for rapper DJ Marcus Jr for deletion. I have contested this within in the link provided. As the founding member of a duo with now world famous recording artist The Kid Laroi, and having acted as his original mentor and producer, DJ Marcus Jr is now a major character in the Australian and world Rap landscape that needs his own page.Grapepinky (talk) 21:51, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

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Why PROD?

Hello Meatgains, why did you prodded Mawaan Thandiyan Chawan? Leomk0403 (talk) 11:08, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

@Leomk0403: Because at the time of the PROD, the page had zero references and no notability was established. Meatsgains^(talk) 16:51, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

I've removed the tag, as I've added references and discovered it led to an scandal.Leomk0403 (talk) 00:52, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

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Speedy Deletion of The Heavy Hours

Hello! I saw your tag for Speedy Deletion of the Heavy Hours. I would love some tips on making edits to the page as well as adding in a manner that makes the most sense to create a well-thought-out page? The article is absolutely a work in progress and I would appreciate your help in moving it forward in deleting the speedy deletion to keep working. Rowenwriting (talk) 18:08, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

@Rowenwriting: Thanks for reaching out - I'll respond on the article's talk page for how to improve. Meatsgains^(talk) 18:10, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

@Meatsgains: Looks like right after I made changes another editor has gone in and deleted do you have any tips on avoiding this next time? Thank you Rowenwriting (talk) 19:07, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

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No, I have not been paid to make edits or create articles on Wikipedia. Meatsgains^(talk) 23:50, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

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Unconstructive

You removed my edit because you said it was unconstructive. I'm sorry but you need to take a second look at the page, i removed something inexplicably written 2 times. Please revert yourself--Diana7800 (talk) 00:34, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Vitaly Shevchenko (journalist)

Two questions re your edits to the page I set up earlier today. 1. The removal of the Podcast link, I can understand - the term is so common that there's need to have a link (you wouldn't have a country link every time the word "country" was mentioned. But I don't understand why you have removed Ukrainecast. There is no page by this name, but I thought it was legitimate to create a link to something that ought (or might in the future) have its own page. I will be surprised if someone (might even be me if I have the time) creates one in the next few months. 2. You have added Vitaly to "Russian Journalists". I am still trying to find more biographical information on him, but his Linkedin page (https://uk.linkedin.com/in/vitalyshevchenko) makes no mention of him ever having worked as a journalist in Russia itself. Also, I suspect (I'd need to listen to back issues of Ukrainecast to be sure) that while his native language may be Russian, his nationality is Ukrainian. For both these reasons, I think this categorisation is inappropriate. But I'd like to hear your thoughts before reverting. Navrongo (talk) 19:49, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Ukrainecast is not independently notable to warrant a Wikipedia page thus, no wikilink. I've removed the category as I was unable to confirm if he is Russian. The page certainly need more references for support. Meatsgains^(talk) 21:18, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Firmino Pantoja Street

It appears that you skipped the step of creating Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Firmino Pantoja Street when nominating the page for deletion. I'm not sure what went wrong there. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 20:12, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

@Metropolitan90: Done, thanks for the heads up! Meatsgains^(talk)`

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A 21 yo Major General hardly seems likely. And Indian MG's only get one star. Though it was kind of you to WP:AGF. Best. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 04:51, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Good call - oversight... Meatsgains^(talk) 16:29, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
No problem. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:16, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

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