User talk:Lellisinca

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Proposed deletion of Abusix

The article Abusix has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Non-notable company without significant coverage.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Abusix

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A tag has been placed on Abusix, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Please help me with... editing the page on Abusix and assure it meets the guidelines of Wikipedia.

Lellisinca (talk) 12:28, 8 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Rather than delete the article, I have moved it to Draft:Abusix where you can work on it. I will post some advice here later today; meanwhile, read Wikipedia:Your first article and (if you are employed by or connected with Abusix) read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and the Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide. JohnCD (talk) 13:19, 8 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Advice as promised

The first thing to explain is that Wikipedia is not a place for organizations, or people, to tell the world about themselves, or post copies of their own promotional literature. There are sites like Facebook for that, but Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, which is quite different.

The second thing to explain is that Wikipedia is selective about subjects for articles. It does not expect to have articles about every organization that exists. The test for inclusion is called Wikipedia:Notability and is not a matter of opinion but has to be demonstrated by references showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Significant means more than just listing-type mentions; reliable excludes Youtube, Facebook, blogs, places where anyone can post anything; independent excludes the subject's own website, affiliated ones and anything based on press releases. Interviews with the organization's staff do not count for much towards notability because they are still the organization talking about itself. The test is, have people not connected with the subject thought it significant enough to write substantial comment about? See also Wikipedia:Notability (summary). This test applies to non-commercial and "good causes" too - see Wikipedia is not here to tell the world about your noble cause.

References are also required so that an article can be written which gives an outside view of the subject, and is more than just the story the subject's PR people want to tell the world, and because of the Wikipedia:Verifiability policy, summarised as "all material must be attributable to reliable, published sources."

Your existing draft was tagged as advertising because it is very clearly Abusix telling the world about itself, explaining features (" Abusix provides several pieces missing in most network operator (access, hosting and email provider) conditions... Abusix can detect security risks and stop them by actioning mitigation automatically. This allows a reliable mitigation of issues as quickly as possible.") and giving advice ("Abuse needs to be actioned fast!")

The nature of your draft makes it seem likely to me that you are employed by Abusix. In that case, read WP:COI and WP:PSCOI. You will see that you should not edit directly, but may submit a draft for review by uninvolved users. You will also see that you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use ("Paid contributions without disclosure" under section 4), and in some jurisdictions by laws against covert advertising, to disclose your interest in any edits for which you receive remuneration.

One reason that COI editing is discouraged is that it is hard for someone close to a subject to take a dispassionate view of it. There is good advice for editors in this situation, which addresses both the COI issue and any doubts about notability, at User:Uncle G/On notability#Writing about subjects close to you:

When writing about subjects that are close to you, don't use your own personal knowledge of the subject, and don't cite yourself, your web site, or the subject's web site. Instead, use what is written about the subject by other people, independently, as your sources. Cite those sources in your very first edit. If you don't have such sources, don't write.

What you should do now

Read WP:Your first article.
Collect independent references such as press coverage (independent, not press releases).
When writing, concentrate less on the organization's vision, mission statement etc and more on what it has actually achieved.
Take great care not to sound promotional. This is the big difficulty for COI editors, who are often used to writing PR-speak. Avoid "peacock terms" like "unique".
Write in your own words, not copying from the website.
Write what a general encyclopedia reader might want to know, not what Abusix wants to tell them. Youb can link to Abusix' website for those who want more detail.

I am sorry if this is all more difficult than you expected, but if Wikipedia allowed people simply to post copies of their own promotional material, it would be no more useful than Facebook as a work of reference.

Regards, JohnCD (talk)

Draft:Abusix concern

Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Abusix, a page you created, has not been edited in 5 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.

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Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot (talk) 01:31, 28 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Abusix

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A tag has been placed on Draft:Abusix, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which pages can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may be soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:

It seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. (See section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information.
It is a draft which has not been edited in over six months. (See section G13 of the criteria for speedy deletion.)

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. FockeWulf FW 190 (talk) 01:27, 19 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]