User talk:KyleBYerrick

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Hello, KyleBYerrick! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. You may benefit from following some of the links below, which will help you get the most out of Wikipedia. If you have any questions you can ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or by typing four tildes "~~~~"; this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you are already excited about Wikipedia, you might want to consider being "adopted" by a more experienced editor or joining a WikiProject to collaborate with others in creating and improving articles of your interest. Click here for a directory of all the WikiProjects. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field when making edits to pages. Happy editing! Cassiopeia talk 22:51, 3 January 2022 (UTC) Getting Started Introduction • Contributing to Wikipedia • Your first article The five pillars of Wikipedia • Simplified ruleset How to: edit a page • upload an image Getting Help Get help at the Teahouse Frequently Asked Questions Where to ask questions Department directory Request administrator attention Policies and Guidelines Neutral point of view • Verifiability • No original research Reliable sources • Citing sources • Content guidelines What Wikipedia is not • Biographies of living persons Manual of Style (Simplified) • Three-revert rule Copyrights • Non-free content • Image use policy External links • Spam • Vandalism • Sockpuppetry Deletion policy • Conflict of interest • Notability The Community Community Portal • Adopt-a-user program Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette No personal attacks • Resolving disputes Build consensus • Village pump IRC channels • Mailing lists The Signpost (Wikipedia's newspaper) Things to do Task Center • Be bold in editing Maintenance • Peer review • Requested articles Join a WikiProject • Translating articles Cleaning up: General • Copy editing • Vandalism Miscellaneous Categories • Disambiguation • Stubs User pages • Talk pages Useful templates • Tools • User scripts

September 2021

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at List of current UFC fighters. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Cassiopeia talk 23:09, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi, KyleBYerrick, Pls do not change the fight record for it is sourced as per Sherdog - see Nascimento and Baudot]. Cassiopeia talk 23:10, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

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December 2021

Please do not add or change content, as you did at UFC Fight Night 207, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Cassiopeia talk 00:37, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Updating announced, cancellation and changed of fighter bouts

Hi KyleYerrick, good day. I have noticed you have been updating some new announced bouts on the event page and I thank you for your contribution especially in MMA project in Wikipedia. Just a note here, when a new bout is announced (confirmed only and not in work, planned, verbally agreed, targeted) or bout cancellation or fighter replacement, then we update in at least 4 articles in EN Wikipedia - the event page, List of UFC current fighters page, the two involved fighters' pages. You already know how to update in the event page and List of UFC fighters page and as for the fighters pages we would always keep it simple as per the WikiProject guidelines - see here for examples here - Murphy and Tate for I have updated the info there. Pls let me know if you have any question regarding updating MMA related pages and any other editing/vandalism/creating new pages for I am here to help. Thank again for your contribution. Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 23:18, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Cassiopeia Thank you for the preparations. I will do my best in regards to the other pages. I do have 2 questions at the moment. First, I probably know the answer but anyways, can a cited reference be a Twitter Post? i.e. Marcel Dorff, Ariel Helwani. Or would I have to wait for an official article? Second, more importantly, on the Rankings page, if a fighter is removed due to injury, should that fighter's part in the next fight section be completely blank as it has been, or should there be a cite referring to the injury up until the event has passed? To let someone know why the opponent was removed from the bar. i.e. Evloev 270

Hi KyeYerrick, first of all you need to ping me/or any editor when you write to them in all talk pages except their talk page. See my "mma pages" message on your talk page under "other info" for instructions. Twitter or any other social media are considered not reliable sources. When you see an info on Twitter, to to their web site, you will see the articles and you can use the web site as the source. Fight info is actually not part of the Ranking page as the contain in the ranking page should be all about the ranking and nothing to do with the previous and up coming fight. I added the sources because all info added/changes should be verified as verification is the most important policy in Wikipedia. In the List of current UFC fighter page, we do update the info if a fighter is removed for whatever reason, bout cancel, replacement and etc. You can follow the same if you want. Let me know if anything else I can help. Cassiopeia talk 03:58, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi KyeYerrick, Good day. Saw you updating a few bouts in several articles and thank you for providign edit summary so the other editors would know the edit nature/reason. However, instead putting "columbia card" pls state the fighters name - example "Calvin Kattar vs. Giga Chikadze" so we know which fighters and bout you are updating and we (1) can check if other associated pages also updated (2) dont need to change all the reused ref when the bout/fighter is cancelled/replaced/withdrew and updating the fight result since it is a lot easier to find who is fighting who. Since I am here so I would let you know when a bout is cancelled or a fighter withdrew from the bout or a replacement is found, a title bout or headliner bout - we need to input the "background" info on the event page. You can see how it is written on the past events articles for examples. Note, there is a editor will always, change all the text as his liking no matter how well you write the background section, pls dont get frustrated and just let it be for your own "happiness on editing mma pages" because at times he might say something a little to harsh especially with the new editors.

Secondly, always use the "UFC Fight Night XXX" or "UFC on ESPN XX" when updating as there always have a chance the headliner is changed due to withraw from a fighter due to injury/covid protocol/etc. For such if you put the actual event name then it will link to nowhere when new article name is updated, but "UFC Fight Night XXX" or "UFC on ESPN XX" will always redirect to the latest event name. Note: on the fighter fight table we do use the actual event name/event articles name after the event has finished (we dont record future bout but will add the info in "hidden text" (done by a regular, long term mma editor every week).

The key is to know the normal on editing mma pages, know the Wikipedia guidelines and observe the regular, long term editors edits on mma pages which you can find it on the articles' history log pages. Once again, thank you for your contribution and welcome to mma project in Wikipedia. Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 21:30, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

MMA related articles

Hi KyleBYerrick, Greetings. Since you have edited a number of pages of MMA related articles in Wikipedia, pls see the below info so you may understand how things work here.

1. Pls visit Wikipedia:WikiProject Mixed martial arts and read through the MMA Wikipedia guidelines.
2. When a bout is announced which stating "finalizing, in work, rumors, verbally agreed,  in the press, this means the bout is not official yet. Wait until it official before place it under the "Announced bouts" section of the event page.
3. When a bout is announced in the press, editors put the match up in the  "Announced bouts" section (inline citation is needed)
4. When UFC.com / its local web site (pls check the reference beneath the fight card table in the Wikipedia page), the editors would remove the bout in the "Announced bouts" and place it in the "fight card" section.
5. When a fighter pulls from a fight (due to injury/or by UFC/ visa issues and etc), we placed the info in the "Background section" (inline citation needed) and remove the injured fighter name and put "TBD".
6. When a injured fighter has been replaced, editor put the info in the background section (with inline citation). If the new match up has not been shown in the UFC.com fight card, then we will removed the match up from the fight card and place it back to "Announced section". If the match up already shown in the UFC.com then jut put the replacement fighter in the fight card section.
7. When the event named has been announced (such as UFC Fight Night: dos Santos vs. Tuivasa) then we place the info in the background section (with inline citation). If UFC.com has shown the event names (Fight Night events or UFC on ESPN) such as UFC Fight Night: Cowboy vs. Medeiros or UFC on ESPN: Reyes vs. Weidman, then editor would move the article and article talk page name accordingly and not before, except the flagship event such as UFC 187, UFC 242 and etc.
8. No colour box in the fighter's page infobox at event fight card page. No title eliminator in the fight card or body text in fighter page or event page. No (c) - champion on the event fight card unless the fighter is the current champion of the weight division.
9. "method" in the fight table is as per Sherdog.com as per WP:MMA guideline and please do not interpret the method yourself even if the method is incorrect as Wikipedia is all about WP:verification and not the true.
10. Info box as per Sherdog. No other nick names or else we would have many nicknames pop up every time there is a internet meme.
11. Reach as per UFC.com as Sherdog dont have the info. Pls provide inline citation.
12. Stand - need to provide inline citation. IF you can find source to support it, leave it blank
13. Style - "The style parameter should only be used in MMA fighters that have participated professionally or in international competitions in other combat sports (i.e. boxing or kickboxing) and who are notable in said sports and deserve an article for their merits in these other sports (i.e. Antônio Rogério Nogueira, Alistair Overeem). It is suggested to MMA editors that they actively remove the style parameter in infoboxes of MMA fighters that do not meet these criteria." Leave style for modern mma fighter as they have to train several combat disciplines.
14. No Flag icon on info box or fight table.
15. Info could be obtain from Sherdog on Info box - need to support by sources such as teachers, belts, notable relatives, university, occupation outside fighting career and etc.

Other info below, if you have already known then disregarded them

1. Pls read referencing to understand about referencing and how to provide inline citation.
2. Leave a brief edit summary before saving you edit, so other editors know the nature of your edit for Wikipedia is the collaboration work from many editors.
3. To reply, leave a comment here and prepend it with {{Ping|Cassiopeia}}. Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~).

Stay safe and best.23:21, 11 January 2022 (UTC) Cassiopeia talk 23:21, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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	Dont know what im doing here as I just made an account but, I wanted to ask you, how do you know the rankings before they are even updated on the website? Granted, whoever runs the website is garbage in the first place, but still, how do you know before apparently they do? WoeIsLee (talk) 19:18, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

There are two different sites. Before it was just the main UFC one, but now, there is also the rankings on the TSN website, which are considered just as credible. KyleBYerrick (talk) 16:42, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

UFC Rankings templates

Hey @KyleBYerrick: Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia:WikiProject Mixed martial arts.

I have two thinks to ask from you:

1. Please, when updating a template such as Template:UFC Women's pound-for-pound Rankings as you did HERE, remove the template from the Raquel Pennington article and add it to Lauren Murphy's.
2. When updating a template such as Template:UFC Middleweight Rankings, as you've done HERE, note that the sources contain an archived version relevant to the time of the previous update. Please, when updating something with an archived source (which is almost always recommended for sources), updated the archived link as well. A new archived link could be easily created at https://web.archive.org/save.

Thank you. CLalgo (talk) 07:54, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

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Rowspanning

Hey, please stop collapsing rows on the right-sided columns for the transaction tables. It removes readability from the table. Thanks. Nanerz (talk) 17:52, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

UFC Light Heavyweight rankings / Jamahal Hill issue

I'd like to offer a suggestion, since the information became inconsistent on that article.

Since there is a line "Rankings updated on July 18, 2023, after UFC on ESPN: Holm vs. Bueno Silva", I disagree with your decision to erase Jamahal Hill from the ranking, since he is still listed on the UFC official rankings as the champion on that update. Specially when it's very likely that he will return as contender #2, below Procházka by the time his belt is removed.

My alternative take would be to keep him as champion on the list, as in the UFC official ranking, but adding a note before the table: "Hill has vacated the title on July 14th, although his position was not updated officially." Galvao1090 (talk) 23:30, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

@Galvao1090, I believe you are correct. I removed him because of the article's confirmation of vacancy, but since he is still technically recognized on the main UFC ranking website, I have returned him to the table. It is not always guaranteed that Hill would be placed at #2 below Jiri, but he should remain there until the rankings officially update it. I have added a note on the side regarding the vacancy. It will remain until it is removed as like Nunes was for BW. Thank you for the suggestion. KyleBYerrick (talk) 02:39, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

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