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Hello Keysanger. Please see WP:ANI#Keysanger's "Capture" of the War of the Pacific Article. You may respond there if you wish. EdJohnston (talk) 16:17, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

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Economic history articles

Hey, these days I have been working on a series of articles on the economic history of Chile (hence also the economic section in WotP). I would like you to take a look and do any corrections or contributions you might find necesary. The articles are:

• Chilean silver rush (1830s-1870s)
• Colonial alerce logging and trade (17th and 18th century)
• Tierra del Fuego Gold Rush (1880s-1910s)
• Chilean wheat cycle (1850s-1870s)

-Chiton (talk) 21:50, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the invitation. At the moment I am making maps of the Chilean rivers, templates and so. I will take a look and to improve the new pages as soon as posible. --Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 14:48, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

On the river articles I dont think a ==See also== heading should go before the hydrography templates. That's not the (usual) style used in Wikipedia. Chiton (talk) 16:50, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Feel free to improve it. --Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 18:08, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Dispute Resolution IRC office hours.

Hello there. As you expressed interest in hearing updates to my research in the dispute resolution survey that was done a few months ago, I just wanted to let you know that I am hosting an IRC office hours session this coming Saturday, 28th July at 19:00 UTC (approximately 12 hours from now). This will be located in the #wikimedia-office ^connect IRC channel - if you have not participated in an IRC discussion before you can connect to IRC here.

Regards, User:Szhang (WMF) (talk) 07:03, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

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User Keysanger/LL

Hi, I was doing new page patrolling and I noticed User Keysanger/LL. I'm guessing that you meant to create that at User:Keysanger/LL -- without the colon, it ended up in mainspace... -- ArglebargleIV (talk) 20:31, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I moved it and added a delete tag for the wrong name page. --Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 10:49, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

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User:The ed17/Sandbox/Argentine–Chilean naval arms race

Hi, I'm currently working on a short article for this topic, if you have any information to add. :-) As an aside, it's nice to find someone else who is interested in Latin American naval history on this site. Let me know if I can help you with any articles or topics. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 01:12, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Floreana Island

You have made a number of edits changing Santa Maria Island to Floreana Island, which you seem to think is in the Azores. But Wikipedia's article about Floreana Island is about an island in the Galapagos. I am not familiar with either island, but stop making these changes, go back, and fix all the errors you have introduced.

One hint: there should be no links to the disambiguation page Santa Maria Island. Instead, links should go to Floreana Island (Galapagos), Santa María Island, Chile, or Santa Maria Island (Azores), whichever one is intended. Jc3s5h (talk) 21:47, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

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Evangelistas Islets and George Henry Slight

Hi Keysanger, thanks for adding the images to these articles. They do improve them substantially. Cheers. Maias (talk) 23:35, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

That's the idea in wikipedia. I was preparing to write a little about the lighthouse, I think it is more important than the islets, as you expanded the article. Great for wikipedia, for my English proficiency is not my strong side!. Any way, if you need a map and you don't find it in commons, tell me, perhaps I can deliver it. I have some know-how in Generic Mapping Tools. --Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 15:08, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

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User rights

Hey Keysanger, I've given you the rollback and autopatrolled user rights. The only hitch is that you can't use rollback to remove edits that are not vandalism (see the link for more). Should you not want them, please let me know and I'll remove them. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 01:53, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Also, I finally replied to you at User talk:The ed17/Sandbox/Argentine–Chilean naval arms race. Sorry for the delay—I didn't have the page on my watchlist! Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 11:32, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

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Guía Narrows

Hey Keysanger, your source for Guía Narrows is this. Do you know what page the information is on? Ryan Vesey 21:10, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

I found it on page 410. I noticed that it's a direct copy of public domain material, in the future can you use {{PD-old-text}} on your articles? Ryan Vesey 21:16, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Actually, {{USNAVY}} looks better for this situation. Ryan Vesey 21:20, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

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Easter Island

Hi Keysanger. I note that you undid my addition to Easter Island, that is, the addition of the date of Easter Sunday in 1722. Given hat such information is widely available in ephemerides and almanacs, and that it is already listed in the artcile 1722, the necessity for a reference is questionable - and in any case, a {{fact}} template would have been far better than simply removing the information. Grutness...wha? 23:33, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Re: A-C naval arms race

Hey Keysanger, sorry for not addressing your points earlier. I've done the ones I can, and I'll work on providing torpedo boat figures for the Argentines. However, for your last point ( a large order for rifles, field guns, sabers, and carbines, enough to arm an 80,000-strong [Chilean] army ... 2) Chile, it was forced to take out a £2 million pound loan in order to purchase Krupp weaponry ...), I don't have comparable Argentine figures. Would your sources happen to have them? Also, if your sources are good enough and you can add some substantial details to the article, we should be able to get this through WP:FAC (if you would like that). Cheers, Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 00:18, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

In 1901 the Argentine Minister of War Richieri declared at the Parlament that the army had weapons for 300,000 men. This is stated by Lacoste and Julio de Arellano, Ministry Plenipotenciary of Spain in Buenos Aires (cited in Pedro Santos Martínez, "Documentos Diplomáticos sobre historia argentina, 1850-1954"), Tomo V: 1890-1909. Centro de Estudios e Investigaciones Históricas "Cuyo", Mendoza, 2002, ISBN 987-43-1155-X, pág. 124, documento nr.:368). As far as I remember, the Argentine historian Georg von Rauch shows more details about Argentine (army) weapons purchase at that time, but I can't access the complete book by google. I will try to find the book at the library. Anyway, the article has my support to WP:FAC, the details we are dealing now aren't decisive for the naval race. Also the issue "torpederas" doesn't change the balance of power, although it should have an adequate mention. Von Rauch lists the torpederas here, but his figures are different than Lacoste. --Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 12:43, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

I got the book Conflict in the Southern Cone, Georg v. Rauch, ISBN 0-275-96347-0, published 1999. He writes in page 114:

The arms race with Chile dictated the need for greater quantities of artillery. During the 1896-1898 contracts worth 12 millons marks were placed in Germany for 351 pieces. ...[300 old Krupps already in war arsenal], . On the other hand, one hundred Maxim machine guns Model 1892/1898 had replaced the older Gatling and Nodenfelts. ... . An additional 180 Krupp Model 1898 75 mm mountain guns, 36 Krupp Model 105 mm howitzers, and 12 Krupp Model 1902 130mm siege guns were delivered during 1898 and 1902.

It isn't easy to confront this Argentine figures with the Chilean in the article. How much is 12 millions mark?. In the table 6.8, page 157 he gives a Comparative Military Expenditures, Argentina and Chile, 1890-1902 in USD with absolutes and % of Budget.

Grand Total (12 Years):

* Argentina USD 258,684,417

* Chile USD 137,994,900

The expenditures are extracted from different sources (and probably different methods).

I don't like Rauch, he seems to be happy of so much wasting of money. If you can't get the book, I can transcript the relevant paragraphs and tables. --Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 17:52, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

To be fair, he's probably happy because without that spending, he might not have a published book. ;-) I'll look and see if I can find historical exchange rates between German gold marks and US dollars. I can request Rauch through inter-library loan sometime on Saturday, but it won't get here for a couple weeks. It's helpful that he gives a grand total, and I'll definitely add that to the article, but I suspect we'll find that every historian will have their own figures. Does he break that down by year, perchance? It would be interesting to see what year Argentina passed Chile. Regarding FAC, it's a little short right now, and I think we can add more details to the article before submitting it. :-) Thanks for all your help, Keysanger. Now it's off to bed, with work in the morning! Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 08:16, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Yuo find the complete table here: User:Keysanger/Sandbox1. --Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 13:07, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for that, I will add the information in when I'm back at my computer. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 02:36, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

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Chilean ship Lautaro (1818)

Hi Keysanger, I wish you hadn't moved this article. The Lautaro wasn't launched in 1800, the Windham was. The 1818 year is the year of accession for Windham into the Chilean Navy as Lautaro. A better way of dealing with the launch date would be to move the article to Windham (1800), with a redirect from Lautaro (1818). Regards, Acad Ronin (talk) 12:47, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Let us discuss it in the talk page of the article:Talk:Chilean ship Lautaro (1800). --Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 13:31, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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Thank you

Thank you for the fix to Operation Black Buck's map. Much appreciated. Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 19:27, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Try to get the article renamed to Saltpeter Works

I think you should make a proposal at the article Nitrary to rename it to Saltpeter works.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:52, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Captured ships

Hi Keysanger, thanks for your recent contribution to the List of ships captured in the 19th century page, however, the entries you submitted do not specify the dates of capture. Could you supply this information, and also use the existing format to conform with the rest of the list? If you are not familiar with formatting techniques, no sweat, I can handle that, but the dates of capture are important. Thanks, -- Gwillhickers (talk) 16:17, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Wow, that was fast. Once again, thanks! If you are interested in Early American and British naval history you might want to check out Bibliography of early American naval history and Bibliography of 18th-19th century Royal Naval history. Salute! -- Gwillhickers (talk) 18:52, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Lighthouses

I'm glad that someone is adding new material. However categories must be supported by facts in the articles. For some lighthouse articles I have actually gone looking for more and found nothing. So the are problems. I believe that all of the categories I have removed were correct actions on my part. In fact, I'm actually leaving some that should be deleted by not following the guidelines. I'm simply going through that tree to add the year they were completed and if they are towers, adding them to that category. It is better to leave out information that can not be supported by references. Also, listing an island or a town as a lighthouse is very confusing. It is better to place those categories on a redirect with the name of the lighthouse. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:25, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Categories are not articles so they have different guidelines. From your reply it seems that you are arguing for a list which is an alternative to a cate3gory and has different guidelines. In any case, you should read Wikipedia:Categorization#Articles which clearly states the defining requirement for the article topic to be included. And yes, there is a warning template that can be used. But generally cleanup is better. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:58, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Stop deleting information. Thank you. --Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 09:34, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

I've found an article in the French Wikipedia which could be translated. [1] Drop me a message if you would like assistance with that. Mangoe (talk) 19:24, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Fjords and channels of Chile

I saw your contributions to Fjords and channels of Chile. Im glad you have expanded the content. However I think the structure and visual style of the page can be improved. I think the ideal would end up with an article like List of volcanoes in Indonesia (a featured list) that offers prose, orderly lists and pleny of pictures without taking up to much space. Do you agree in modeling Fjords and channels of Chile after List of volcanoes in Indonesia)? Dentren | ^Talk 22:20, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Te escribo en castellano para simplificar. Muchas gracias por consultarme. Quizás debí haberlo hecho yo antes de desarmar (tus?) tablas en la lista.

Normalmente yo también prefiero las listas porque cada columna tiene la opción de ser ordenada, además de ser mas clara. (Mira

• List of ships of the Chilean Navy y
• List of islands of Chile)

Pero en este caso (como en el caso List of rivers of Chile) el problema consiste en que es de suma importancia dar a conocer las conecciones del canal (resp. río). Por ejemplo el canal Trinidad, que falta en la lista, esta conectado al canal Concepción, al canal Wide y al Picton. Por eso desarmé las tablas y los puse en listas, que son mas flexibles pues permiten añadir "Pasos" (ej. English narrows y Paso del Indio que son parte del Canal Messier; Primera y Segunda Angostura, que son parte del Estrecho.), explicar las conecciones (ej. el canal Wide "continúa" el canal Messier pero "se cruza" o "conecta" con el Concepción y el Trinidad. Es decir en la lista se puede agregar información, lo que una tabla no permite, creo yo.

Como se puede agregar esa información en una tabla?. En el caso de los ríos es posible. por ejemplo la cuenca del Río Maipo:

Rio	UFI	afluente del
Mapocho	123	Maipo
Maipo	345	Oc. Pacífico
Molina	789	Mapocho
Colina	876	Mapocho

Esta lista permite encontrar, por ejemplo, todos los "Río Blanco" que hay en Chile pero también todos los afluentes (directos) del Río Maule y todo eso en una sola lista, sin información redundante. Es un trabajo inmenso, tengo la lista de ríos (NGA) pero se debe trasladar la información existente en la lista actual a la futura.

Lamentablemente no se como podemos ordenar los canales pues estan asociados a mas información, como ya expliqué. Sabes tu como ordenar esa lista?.

Cuales serían según tu las columnas de las tablas?, las mismas de antes? (Fjord/Channel/Strait + Navegation + Settlements)?. El desafío es, sin información redundante:

• como agregar los "Pasos",
• como agregar que un canal es la continuación de otro
• como agregar que un canal se cruza con otro
• como agregar que el canal es la conección a la carretera austral
• como agregar que el Canal Baker es la entrada a una región aunque no llega a cada lugar

Otro problema es que las fotos se pueden colocar en cualquier lado donde no molesten, pero los mapas deben estar "cerca" del lugar donde se mencionan los canales. Ahí también las lista son mas flexibles que las tablas.

Saludos, --Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 07:56, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Concuerdo en que hay muchisima información y muchisimas formas de ordenar la información. Creo sin embargo que eso no deberia ser un imperdimento para poder entregar información tabuladas y ordenada. Se puede perfectamente elegir un criterio clave y ordernar en torno a este. En muchas ciencias aparecen problemas de ordernar la información, pero se suele coverger en la forma de ordenar la información más conveniente.

Creo para este caso la ubicación geográfica deberia ser la más importante y como lo es en también en List of volcanoes in Indonesia.

Respondiendo las interrogantes que propones el artículo es de fiordos y canales no de pasos.

• 1) Los pasos pueden mencionarse en una columna llamada "conections" o "adjacent waterbodies".
• 2) En una columanb llamada "conections" o "adjacent waterbodies" se puede explicar eso. Dicha columnia podria tener un poco de prosa.
• 3) Los canales que se cruzan también se podrian describir en "conections"/"adjacent waterbodies".
• 4) En una columna de transporte se puede mencionar poblados y carreteras
• 5) En una columna de transporte se puede mencionar y si no cabe toda la información hay que dejar cierta información afuera para ser tratada en el artículo.

Ciertos canales tienen tantas coneciones que es lógico en ciertos casos omitir informacion o poner "etc."/"y otros" para que todo entre las tablas. La clave esta en omitir lo menoes importante dejandolo para el artículo de dicho canal. Ademas los mapas ya dicen bastante, si alguién quiere saber los detalles exactos de algún canal que vea el mapa, no podemos escribir las situaciones geográficas tan complicadas como si esto fuera material para ciegos. Dentren | ^Talk 14:44, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

La verdad es que tampoco estoy muy satisfecho con mi solución. Mas aún después de agregar las rutas oficiales según el párrafo 45 porque otra vez aparece información redandante y poco clara. Dónde esta la isla Anxious? o la Boca del Guafo?. Algunas rutas dadas no son claras, por ejemplo la ruta Cabo Ladrillero to Canal Concepción to inner channels: significa que sale del estrecho al pacifico e ingresa por el canal Concepción a los canales interiores?. En general las alternativas no son claras, traté de mostrarlas en pequeñas imágenes pero ocupan demasiado espacio, tienen tamaño diferente y serían 13 imágenes!. También lo intente con una tabla pero el resultado fue caótico.

En fin, no puedo afirmar que mi solución es mejor que las tablas que tenías. Aunque creo que este caso es más complicado que el de los volcanes porque hay mucha más información entrelazada. En cambio información dada en un registro (línea) en la lista de volcanes se refiere solo a un volcan.

Podemos intentarlo. Las tablas deberían tener un ancho fijo así también las columnas para harmonizar la diagramación. Quizás se pueden dividir en 1)Chiloé, 2)Chonos, 3)G. Penas hasta Puerto Natales, 4)Región de entrada a Puerto Natales, 5)Estrecho de Magallanes, 6)Tierra del Fuego.

Si lo consideras pertinente pudes utilizar User:Keysanger/Sandbox5 o algún otro sandbox primero. --Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 15:16, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

He estado pensando en la organización del articulo y tal como lo dices tu, hay muchisimos parametros. Te propongo por eso mantener en grandes rasgos la estructura actual pero incluir una sección de listas "numericas": Contents [hide] 1 History 2 Climate and geography 3 Legal status of the waterways 4 Transportation

4.1 Ferry lanes

4.2 The Isthmus of Ofqui canal construction project

4.3 Chacao Channel bridge

5 Main fjords and channels (A cada fiordo/canal se le hace una breve descripción y se coloca el enlace al artículo.)

5.1 Chacao to Guafo

5.2 Guaitecas to the Gulf of Penas

5.3 Gulf of Penas to Straits of Magellan

5.4 Tierra del Fuego and Puerto Natales

6 Ranked lists

6.1 Depth (poner los 10 o 20 fiordos/canales más profundos)

6.2 Lenght

7 Gallery 8 See also 9 References 10 External links

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Veo que has estado editando bastante los articulos referidos a la navegación en Chile y la Zona Austral. Creo que en la siguente literatura podras encontrar muchisima información valuable:

• Martinic Beros, Mateo. Crónica de las Tierras del Canal Beagle. 1973. Editorial Francisco de Aguirre S.A.
• Martinic Beros, Mateo (2001), "La actividad industrial en Magallanes entre 1890 y mediados del siglo XX.", Historia, 34
• Martinić, Mateo (1982), La Tierra de los Fuegos, Punta Arenas, Chile: Municipalidad de Porvenir {{citation}}: Unknown parameter |lastauthoramp= ignored (|name-list-style= suggested) (help)

Por lo demás queria preguntarte si te darias la molestia de leer Economic history of Chile que estado editando recientemente a ver si le puedes hacer correcciones menores (o mayores). Saludos, -Dentren | ^Talk 06:41, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

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You have just dome a tremendous amount of work in splitting the lighthouses. What I do not yet understand is why you have done so. Where may I find the rationale for the immense task, please? Fiddle Faddle

Because of the size of the article. Without fotos the article was 190 kb. --Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 07:52, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

May I suggest you do something to make it clear(er) to those stumbling upon them that there is a series of such articles? YOu can see that it confused at least one editor, so it will, presumably, confuse others, Fiddle Faddle 07:55, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

That is a good idea, someone should do that!. --Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 07:58, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

I have changed the layout of the first list to plain wikitables and would also edit the other lists this way. The main reason for doing this is that you spare a lot of code, and what is most important: blue font colour should only be used for clickable links. De728631 (talk) 15:27, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Could you review Lighthouses in Chile?. I moved a lot of text from the lists to this page. --Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 20:06, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Done. I've moved the part that explains the NGA tables back to the main list page because it was quite useless in the overview article where there are no such tables. On another note, the separate lists 1–7 could still need a lot of cleanup, e.g. punctuation is an issue: we don't use periods or semi-colons at the end of cell entries. And, if possible, wikilinks should be added to names of locations. De728631 (talk) 21:55, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

I did copy&paste from the NGA table. The semi-colons were there as well as the dots after the height of the structure. You deleted the dash before the "names", but they were place holder for the name of the (wiki-)table. I would say, if NGA can live with that table, wikipedia should also. --Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 10:06, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

The List of Lights does not use gridded tables like Wikipedia but it's a loosely arranged list where the content is mostly separated by whitespaces so they need additional periods and semi-colons to mark the end of an entry. That style is completely redundant when you use gridlines. De728631 (talk) 16:51, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

I have a question. commons:Category:Sala y Gómez shows 3 fotos with a lighthouse, and Isla Salas y Gómez says that there is a beacon. But in NGA doesn't appear this lighthouse, nor under its rapa-nui name Motu Motiro.

In Desventuradas Islands, especially San Felix, there is no mention of a lh, but in NGA appear under 1129/G 1937 , Isla San Felix, a lighthouse. Can you explain that?. --Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 21:35, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Russ Rowlett mentions both the Sala y Gómez light and the one at Desventuradas Islands in his list [2]. That the lighthouse at Isla San Felix hasn't yet been mentioned in the Wikipedia article about the archipelago is most likely based on the fact that nobody either cared to add it or people didn't know about it when they created or edited the article which is still basically a stub with a simple list of individual islands. But I have no idea why the NGA missed the Sala y Gómez light. De728631 (talk) 18:08, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

I am very sceptic regarding to "free" updates, complements and interpretations of the NGA list. Therefore I let the Argentine lighthouses in the list albeit they don't belong to Chile and added only a foto of SyG and not a record. I think it is better to let the list "as is". --Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 23:28, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

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I am requesting a rename on Commons. My current Commons name is "Createaccount". --Best regards, KS (wat?) 12:41, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

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