User talk:Kellie Whitlock

Seattle First Baptist Church

A tag has been placed on Seattle First Baptist Church, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group or service and which would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

If you can indicate why the subject of this article is not blatant advertising, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please add {{hangon}} on the top of the page and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would help make it encyclopedic, as well as adding any citations from reliable sources to ensure that the article will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. janejellyroll 04:38, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Please do not remove speedy deletion tags from articles that you have created. It is considered vandalism. The reason I placed the tag is that the article you created seems to be blatant advertising for the church in question. It is not written in an NPOV style (there are slips like "our church," etc). I am also concerned that it may not be original material--it seems as if it may be from a book, website or other publication. Anyway, if you disagree, please follow the instructions on the tag--but don't remove the tag yourself. Please let me know if you have any questions. janejellyroll 04:48, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Responding to your question

First, please leave questions for other users on their talk page (you asked the question on my "open task" page, which is different). My first concern with the article is that it is not written from an WP:NPOV. It is quite clearly written by somebody affiliated with the church--which you are. Statements like "our church" or "our cross" don't make sense in the context of an encyclopedia article--think about how it would look in a print encyclopedia, for example. That is why I tagged the article for speedy deletion as spam--because it is quite promotional in tone. Also, if the material is under copyright, it can't be part of the article. You say that you're the webmaster of the site that the material is copied from, but that isn't obvious to anybody who was reading the article. If you would like to make the changes necessary to comply with Wikipedia policies, please follow the steps listed on the template (place the "hang on" template and then explain on the article's talk page why you feel deletion is not justified. You can provide details about what changes you're planning to make as well). Think of it this way--it's not article site for your church. It can be space for an article about your church if your church meets guidelines as far as notability, etc. But the tone of the article cannot be promotional and it must be neutral. Please let me know if you have any more questions. janejellyroll 04:57, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

I too have left some questions about the copyright and the content of the article on the talk page of the article. DGG 08:47, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Copyright status of Seattle First Baptist Church

Please do not post copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder, as you did to Seattle First Baptist Church. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites (http://www.seattlefirstbaptist.org/Default.asp?c=Wed%20Jul%2018%202007%2015:18:45%20GMT-0700%20(Pacific%20Daylight%20Time)&o=420&rW=1024&rH=768&Header=The%20Beginning&Locator=History in this case) or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.
If you believe that the article is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) then you should do one of the following:

• If you have permission from the author leave a message explaining the details on the article Talk page and send an email with the message to "permissions-en (at) wikimedia (dot) org". See Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission for instructions.
• If a note on the original website states that re-use is permitted under the GFDL or released into the public domain leave a note at Talk:Seattle First Baptist Church with a link to where we can find that note;
• If you own the copyright to the material: send an e-mail from an address associated with the original publication to permissions-en(at)wikimedia(dot)org or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation permitting re-use under the GFDL, and note that you have done so on the article Talk page. Alternatively, you may create a note on your web page releasing the work under the GFDL and then leave a note at Talk:Seattle First Baptist Church with a link to the details.

Otherwise, you are encouraged to rewrite this article in your own words to avoid any copyright infringement. After you do so, you should place a {{hangon}} tag on the article page and leave a note at Talk:Seattle First Baptist Church saying you have done so. An administrator will review the new content before taking action.

It is also important that all Wikipedia articles have an encyclopedic tone and follow Wikipedia article layout. For more information on Wikipedia's policies, see Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If you want to edit constructively, take a look at the welcome page. Thank you. Fabrictramp 22:20, 18 July 2007 (UTC)